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re: The best QB in LSU history...
Posted on 8/16/08 at 9:31 am to 4EVERLSU1987
Posted on 8/16/08 at 9:31 am to 4EVERLSU1987
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Posted on 8/16/08 at 9:49 am to 4EVERLSU1987
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Posted on 8/16/08 at 9:53 am to 4EVERLSU1987
Hodson
Posted on 8/16/08 at 10:01 am to Sammich
Jones, Hodson, Tittle, Mauck, Risher, and others.
Posted on 8/16/08 at 10:04 am to 4EVERLSU1987
Interesting! Some observations-
1) Far and away-Russell is the best I've ever seen at LSU, and I saw my first game in 1950. After that, in no particular order, Hodson, Hillman, Davey, Jones, Risher, Tittle.
2)The best QB who gets NO recognition is Mike Hillman, who came in for an injured Freddie Haynes as a jr against Ole Miss in 1968 and almost pulled out a victory. He expectedly lost his first start against Alabame the next week, then led the team to 3 wins, including a Peach Bowl win against Fla St.
In 1969 he led one of the great teams in Tiger History to a 9-1 record, averaging 35 points a game, a new Tiger record. The only loss was to Ole Miss. Mike went out with an injury in the 3d qtr with the Tigers leading 23-12. A green Buddy Lee was unable to move the offense and Archie led the Rebs to a 26-23 comeback win.
This team lost a possible National Championship when they were unofficially (as was the practice at the time) invited to play No 1 Texas in the Cotton Bowl; but were then uninvited when Notre Dame decided it wanted to play in the Cotton Bowl. The Cotton Bowl Committee, mostly Texas alums, seized the opportunity and dropped LSU like a hot potato.
The Tigers probably would have very easily crushed Texas and vaulted to No. 1 in the final polls, given the circumstances of their only loss. This was the LSU team that gave up only 440 years rushing the entire season!! Texas, on the other hand, running the wishbone, only completed ten passes the entire season. It probably wouldn't have been pretty for the Longhorns.
Hillman was both a great passer and a great runner. It's a shame no one remembers him because he only had one full year as a starter.
3) Booty!!!???? The worst thing that ever happened to LSU football was to have Josh Booty show up five years late.
If he had never entered LSU, we could, on this forum. at tailgate parties, and just sitting around bars, say, "Just think, if Josh Booty had come to LSU, we would have won 48 straight games and been the first team to win four National Championships in a row!"
4) Bert Jones was a very talented QB, but better in the pros than at LSU. I would rank him slightly ahead of Tittle as the best LSU pro qb, although I watched enough of JR last night to see that Bert won't be holding that honor much longer.
1) Far and away-Russell is the best I've ever seen at LSU, and I saw my first game in 1950. After that, in no particular order, Hodson, Hillman, Davey, Jones, Risher, Tittle.
2)The best QB who gets NO recognition is Mike Hillman, who came in for an injured Freddie Haynes as a jr against Ole Miss in 1968 and almost pulled out a victory. He expectedly lost his first start against Alabame the next week, then led the team to 3 wins, including a Peach Bowl win against Fla St.
In 1969 he led one of the great teams in Tiger History to a 9-1 record, averaging 35 points a game, a new Tiger record. The only loss was to Ole Miss. Mike went out with an injury in the 3d qtr with the Tigers leading 23-12. A green Buddy Lee was unable to move the offense and Archie led the Rebs to a 26-23 comeback win.
This team lost a possible National Championship when they were unofficially (as was the practice at the time) invited to play No 1 Texas in the Cotton Bowl; but were then uninvited when Notre Dame decided it wanted to play in the Cotton Bowl. The Cotton Bowl Committee, mostly Texas alums, seized the opportunity and dropped LSU like a hot potato.
The Tigers probably would have very easily crushed Texas and vaulted to No. 1 in the final polls, given the circumstances of their only loss. This was the LSU team that gave up only 440 years rushing the entire season!! Texas, on the other hand, running the wishbone, only completed ten passes the entire season. It probably wouldn't have been pretty for the Longhorns.
Hillman was both a great passer and a great runner. It's a shame no one remembers him because he only had one full year as a starter.
3) Booty!!!???? The worst thing that ever happened to LSU football was to have Josh Booty show up five years late.
If he had never entered LSU, we could, on this forum. at tailgate parties, and just sitting around bars, say, "Just think, if Josh Booty had come to LSU, we would have won 48 straight games and been the first team to win four National Championships in a row!"
4) Bert Jones was a very talented QB, but better in the pros than at LSU. I would rank him slightly ahead of Tittle as the best LSU pro qb, although I watched enough of JR last night to see that Bert won't be holding that honor much longer.
Posted on 8/16/08 at 10:21 am to dick
Bert Jones is the obvious answer.
Posted on 8/16/08 at 10:43 am to 4EVERLSU1987
1. Bert Jones
2. JR
3. Hodson
4. YA
5. Rohan
However, YA is the greatest pro in LSU Football history.
2. JR
3. Hodson
4. YA
5. Rohan
However, YA is the greatest pro in LSU Football history.
Posted on 8/16/08 at 10:52 am to 4EVERLSU1987
Tom Hodson edges out Bert Jones.
Posted on 8/16/08 at 11:31 am to NachoSancho
After reviewing Hodson's stats there is no way an objective person could pick JR over Hodson.
In their redshirt freshmen years Hodson and Russel were in almost identical circumstances. LSU needed a starting quarterback. After that their performances speak loudly in favor of Hodson.
In 1986, Hodson went to the Louisiana State University (LSU). As quarterback for LSU's football team, Hodson led LSU to two SEC Championships, first as a freshman (1986) and then as a junior (1988). During his 44 regular season games at LSU (1986-1989), Hodson passed for 9,115 yards and 69 touchdowns, becoming the first quarterback in SEC history to surpass 8,000 career passing yards, and the first quarterback in SEC history to surpass 60 career passing touchdowns.
In their redshirt freshmen years Hodson and Russel were in almost identical circumstances. LSU needed a starting quarterback. After that their performances speak loudly in favor of Hodson.
In 1986, Hodson went to the Louisiana State University (LSU). As quarterback for LSU's football team, Hodson led LSU to two SEC Championships, first as a freshman (1986) and then as a junior (1988). During his 44 regular season games at LSU (1986-1989), Hodson passed for 9,115 yards and 69 touchdowns, becoming the first quarterback in SEC history to surpass 8,000 career passing yards, and the first quarterback in SEC history to surpass 60 career passing touchdowns.
Posted on 8/16/08 at 12:01 pm to 4EVERLSU1987
BERT JONES
Posted on 8/16/08 at 1:33 pm to BulldogQB
I like Bert but I didn't get to see him as much as Hodson. In addition, Jones was playing for a dinosaur so did not have the opportunity to use/show his talents as did almost every LSU quarterback since.
Posted on 8/16/08 at 1:58 pm to TheEdge
Chad Loup
Posted on 8/16/08 at 1:59 pm to roygu
Was Bert Jones the JaMarcus Russell of the 70's?
Posted on 8/16/08 at 2:10 pm to roygu
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In 1986, Hodson went to the Louisiana State University (LSU). As quarterback for LSU's football team, Hodson led LSU to two SEC Championships, first as a freshman (1986) and then as a junior (1988). During his 44 regular season games at LSU (1986-1989), Hodson passed for 9,115 yards and 69 touchdowns, becoming the first quarterback in SEC history to surpass 8,000 career passing yards, and the first quarterback in SEC history to surpass 60 career passing TDs
That's a thread-ender. The debate is really betwen Hodson and JR. JR's mastery of the 4th quarter in 2005-2006 was truly amazing. But, in a lot of his way, I think Jimbo Fisher let hm down. And I believe that Saban held a secret grudge against him for bailing him out of the OSU opener in 2004, leading to all of his nutty 1 and 1A TALK. He repaid him blowing yet another JR comeback in the Capital One Bowl.
Posted on 8/16/08 at 2:24 pm to Doc Fenton
I think there is a comparison between JR and Jones. Neither had a full 4 years, but still put up good stats and had winning teams.
Here is the link for some Jones stats.
He was only the #2 overall in the NFL draft, but started from the get go. I think he took over for Johnny Unitas.
I liked his nickname too. Sort of what you would want to remember about JR in terms of arms.
LINK
Here is the link for some Jones stats.
He was only the #2 overall in the NFL draft, but started from the get go. I think he took over for Johnny Unitas.
I liked his nickname too. Sort of what you would want to remember about JR in terms of arms.
LINK
Posted on 8/16/08 at 3:08 pm to 4EVERLSU1987
Bert Jones
Posted on 8/16/08 at 4:13 pm to triplesauce
There are great arguments for both Hodson and Jones. Jones was held back by the 2 QB system. He didn't even start until the Notre Dame game of his junior year.
Hodson was held back by Arnsparger's total lack of recruiting. If I remember correctly, the year Davis and McGee graduated Bill didn't sign a single wide receiver. Hodson still made 5'8" (if that) Tony Moss the SEC's leading receiver.
Want a scary thought-Miles wanted to bring in Gary Crowton when he was hired, but was told to keep Jimbo Fisher.
Imagine JaMarcus Russell playing QB under Gary Crowton his last two years? We might be going for our fourth straight National Championship!!
Stats are nice; but-if I've got one game that I MUST win and I can choose any of the three as my starting QB, I'll take Russell.
Hodson was held back by Arnsparger's total lack of recruiting. If I remember correctly, the year Davis and McGee graduated Bill didn't sign a single wide receiver. Hodson still made 5'8" (if that) Tony Moss the SEC's leading receiver.
Want a scary thought-Miles wanted to bring in Gary Crowton when he was hired, but was told to keep Jimbo Fisher.
Imagine JaMarcus Russell playing QB under Gary Crowton his last two years? We might be going for our fourth straight National Championship!!
Stats are nice; but-if I've got one game that I MUST win and I can choose any of the three as my starting QB, I'll take Russell.
Posted on 8/16/08 at 5:07 pm to 4EVERLSU1987
JaMarcus Russel is probably the best IMO. It's just he was dealt the most brutal road schedule in recent history for the Tigers.
Posted on 8/16/08 at 5:55 pm to 4EVERLSU1987
YA
Posted on 8/16/08 at 7:45 pm to fanrun
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