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re: The 3 run moon shot by Albert in game 1 question.
Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:04 pm to Whataburger
Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:04 pm to Whataburger
I'll also say I'm glad most people aren't shaming Vietmeier for that HR. When your pitching coach is calling a sequence like that, I definitely put it almost entirely on that, rather than the pitcher. It's just absurdly dumb to continue to throw the same thing the guy clearly is timing up on you over and over and over until he finally gets one fair.
Even if you walk him you HAVE to try something different because clearly your chances for success on the fastball are slim.
Even if you walk him you HAVE to try something different because clearly your chances for success on the fastball are slim.
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Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:04 pm to RB10
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Better question. Furthest hit ball in new box or what?
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Deichmann probably still holds that honor.
yeah, this dude hit the building behind stadium.
Deichmann hit Nicholson
Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:06 pm to nicholastiger
quote:There were 2 runners on base, hence the 3 run moon shot.
A solo shot doesn't hurt you there.
quote:Three different issues that went wrong with the Mendoza at bat, and they made the wrong decision on all 3.
I still don't understand the pitch they threw to Mendoza for the walkoff hit. Unless Fontenot missed his location it was way too fat for a 1/2 count. It should have been off the plate or buried inside to his ankles/feet.
First off, we should have never pitched to Mendoza. He should have been intentionally walked to get the force out at 3 bags, plus the fact he’s their best hitter.
Secondly, Fontenot should not have been out there. He was gassed. I was surprised Mendoza didn’t launch one of his 90 mph fastballs into Tiger Stadium. Mendoza had already faced him twice. Should have brought in Hess and let him close it out.
Thirdly, Mendoza should have never seen another strike after he was 1-2. Make him chase a breaking ball in the dirt, or a high fastball.
Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:08 pm to bhtigerfan
The count was 3-2 and they didn’t trust him to throw offspeed.
He shouldn’t have been in the game anyway. Lefties were hitting .396 against him this year lol fireable offense
He shouldn’t have been in the game anyway. Lefties were hitting .396 against him this year lol fireable offense
This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 1:10 pm
Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:12 pm to Lester Earl
quote:I know this, but what’s better, load the bases with a walk, or give up a 3 run moon shot? Vietmeier struck out the next batter on a great changeup.
The count was 3-2 and they didn’t trust him to throw offspeed.
quote:I agree. Another in a long succession of awful coaching decisions.
He shouldn’t have been in the game anyway. Lefties were hitting .396 against him this year lol
Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:16 pm to bhtigerfan
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I know this, but what’s better, load the bases with a walk, or give up a 3 run moon shot?
Well you certainly don’t want to put the go ahead run at the plate, so I understand staying with the fastball.
You certainly hope Albert doesn’t hit a HR there. That wasn’t the plan lol
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Vietmeier struck out the next batter on a great changeup.
Yap no one on base
This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 1:18 pm
Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:20 pm to Lester Earl
quote:You and Dunn are the only ones who think this.
so I understand staying with the fastball.
Everyone else, not so much.
quote:Because he cleared them with a fricking bomb you tard. How in the frick can defend the pitch calling?
Yap no one on base
This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:20 pm to bhtigerfan
Would it be a stretch to say that retarded arse pitch selection changed the whole SR?
Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:22 pm to GCTiger11
quote:Not at all. Dunn should be unemployed right now.
Would it be a stretch to say that retarded arse pitch selection changed the whole SR?
Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:23 pm to bhtigerfan
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If a pitcher can’t throw a changeup or breaking ball for a strike when he needs to, he shouldn’t be on the mound.
This is what it boils down to. We shouldn't have gone to Vietmeier, which isn't really on Dunn.
Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:24 pm to bhtigerfan
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You and Dunn are the only ones who think this.
Smh ok guy. Don’t ask the question if you don’t like the answers
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Because he cleared them with a fricking bomb you tard. How in the frick can defend the pitch calling?
I don’t think the kid should have been in the game period. Every pitch he throws is a beach ball.
I didn’t say I agreed with the pitch calling. Just the rationale. It’s baseball 101.
Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:24 pm to Lester Earl
quote:But it’s the go-ahead run? Remember, the reason you defend throwing 12 fastballs in a row to Albert?
Yap no one on base
Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:25 pm to bhtigerfan
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But it’s the go-ahead run? Remember, the reason you defend throwing 12 fastballs in a row to Albert?
Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:25 pm to lsu2006
quote:He’s the pitching coach. Who makes the decisions on who comes in?
This is what it boils down to. We shouldn't have gone to Vietmeier, which isn't really on Dunn.
Regardless, his pitch calling was retarded.
This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 1:26 pm
Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:28 pm to Lester Earl
quote:I agree, he shouldn’t have been in there. But you’re defending the pitch selection by saying it’s better to continue throwing fastballs instead of an off speed pitch because you’re afraid to walk him.
I don’t think the kid should have been in the game period. Every pitch he throws is a beach ball. I didn’t say I agreed with the pitch calling. Just the rationale. It’s baseball 101.
I was a high school pitcher. I didn’t have great velocity, but I had good control and location. My go-to pitch on a full count was a breaking ball and 9 out of 10 times I could throw it for a strike. It would either freeze them if I threw it inside and called strike 3, or over the plate and break away and miss it swinging. Everyone expects a fastball in that count. Don’t throw what they’re expecting.
This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 1:36 pm
Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:35 pm to bhtigerfan
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He’s the pitching coach. Who makes the decisions on who comes in?
The head coach? Do you think Mainieri just looks over at Dunn and says "hey, go get me a guy, the guy out there now looks done"
Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:38 pm to OldManRiver
quote:What kind of fricking head coach doesn’t consult his pitching coach when making pitching changes?
The head coach? Do you think Mainieri just looks over at Dunn and says "hey, go get me a guy, the guy out there now looks done"
Like, “Hey, how’s Smith looking in the bullpen? Think I should go with him or Jones against these two lefties?”
This post was edited on 6/11/19 at 1:39 pm
Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:39 pm to bhtigerfan
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But it’s the go-ahead run? Remember, the reason you defend throwing 12 fastballs in a row to Albert?
Yup. And he certainly wasn’t going to throw another fastball after the last at bat
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But you’re defending the pitch selection by saying it’s better to continue throwing fastballs instead of an off speed pitch because you’re afraid to walk him.
I’m not defending it, I’m telling you what the coach is thinking. You asked the question. I’m answering it for you
Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:39 pm to OldManRiver
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The head coach? Do you think Mainieri just looks over at Dunn and says "hey, go get me a guy, the guy out there now looks done"
It's CPM's decision, but Dunn is the one giving him the details.
Posted on 6/11/19 at 1:41 pm to Lester Earl
quote:Well it sounded like you were defending him and his rationale. Sorry if you weren’t.
I’m not defending it, I’m telling you what the coach is thinking. You asked the question. I’m answering it for you
I just think Dunn is an idiot, and Mainieri also.
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