re: the 2011 season and the 7th year of Les Miles.

I think he is pretty damn lucky to have the record that he has right now. I realize ugly wins are still wins, but the majority of the time you watch a Les Miles team words likely sloppy, confusion, and chaos come to mind. I think his recruiting and management of the team are top notch. But usually his teams exude under achievement with small flashes of brilliance. Maybe the problem with the previous teams under-achieving was a shitty OC and that problem is about to be corrected. Time will tell...

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Spoken as one with no understanding of either the SEC, the LSU SOS for 2011, or college football in general.

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now that's comical coming from you. Here's what I don't understand about the SEC. LSU plays Florida, Auburn and Arkansas at home this year. Auburn who, you are right was in the BCS CG this year, loses their Heisman winning QB and Lombardi winning DT and 4 of 5 starters on the OL. Considering LSU lost at AU by 7, with Netwon and Fairly and should be better this year, playing AU at home is a game a team with aspirations to win the SEC and NC should win. Losers like you would accept a loss since its a tough game.

Florida, who we beat on the road, has a new, first time HC and a new OC, installing a different offense. They do have lots of talent, but another game a great team and coach should win.

At Bama will be tough, but they will have a first year underclassman starting at QB. Teams with first year, underclassmen starting at QB do not usually win the SEC

Here's another thing I don't understand apparently about the SEC, the last 3 years 4 teams have finished the regular season unbeaten. While its a tough conference, it is possible to go unbeaten. If you are willing to settle for 3 loses, then you are selling the team short.

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I suppose you see Bama coming off a NC season with a HT RB and and 5 yr in the program QB finishing 10-3 this year as a "disaster" as well, huh.

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Yes and no. Here is a prime example of where context is important, a concept I know you can't handle, but I'll explain. Bama was coming off a NC and while they did have some key guys back on offense that you mentioned, they lost a lot on defense. LSU is coming off a good season, but not a NC. We only lose 5 starters total. Different situations.

We also have to look at the schedule. In 2010 Alabama played at Ark, USCe and LSU, they lost 2 of those 3 games. In 2011 LSU has a more favorable schedule in 2011.

Its a shame so many LSU fans are willing to accept being pretty good, which is what a 9-3 season would be. We have the talent and schedule to win the SEC and maybe a NC. With that we should not accept a 9-3 season and the Cotton or Cap One Bowl in 2011.

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Here's what I don't understand about the SEC

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There is a lot you don't understand bout playing in the SEC when you would label a season that would equate to 10-3 as a "disaster".

That's an extreme position to take and it's a shame you don't have more respect for the SEC or LSU to suggest such.

If he does not win another West and SEC Title then his legacy will be damaged. This is 100% his program now. With all the games won the last 3 years we have no Titles of any kind. The expectations of the positigers will be his undoing. I have realistic expectations for the program. I will be satisfied with a West Title next year. The positigers are talking up the National Champ hype. It's a little unfair to Les. We have never had less than a 2 loss season with him.

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H-Town Tiger

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I have to admit, you absolutely nailed 2011. Anything can happen and there are no easy wins. But, in my OP I stated this was a defining year for Miles. Even with a new OC, he has everything in place. I have followed LSU since 1978 and I can say without a doubt, this is the best team from top to bottom that LSU has had in my lifetime. By that I mean players, staff, schedule, the total package. If there ever was a season for our fanbase to expect to be in ATL and a possible NCG, it is this year.

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Les Miles is the elite coach you and Choctow claim,

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I don't claim that Miles is an elite coach, but he does have an elite won-loss record for his 6 seasons as his winning percentage among BCS coaches falls at bout #5.

If you can only be content by going undefeated in the SEC, knock yourself out.

You started off with 10-3 for next season being a "disaster" and now you are back peddling while talkin' "context" and "hyperbole".

If you now feel 10-3 would be " a pretty good season", then we agree and that was my feeling from the get-go.

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If you can only be content by going undefeated in the SEC, knock yourself out.

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I never said I can only be content by going undefeated. Expecting that every year is unrealistic. But never expecting greatness is selling the program short. There is no reason why we can't go undefeated or win the SEC at 12-1 next year with all the talent we have and how things shape up for the rest of the league.

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You started off with 10-3 for next season being a "disaster" and now you are back peddling while talkin' "context" and "hyperbole".

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not back peddling at all, its an over the top statement, but you really are clueless about context based on your post. LSU just went 11-2 going 10-3 would be a step back. When you factor in CONTEXT, like we should be better with great young players now having experience, lots of great talent coming in, our schedule is more favorable with home games against Fla, AU and Arky, the other 3 top teams in the SEC W in 2010 (AU, Ark, Bama) all will have new QB's. 10-3 should be a disappointment. But hey if all you want is to rack up a bunch of wins and never get an SEC let alone NC, then settle for 10-3 in all cases.

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If you now feel 10-3 would be " a pretty good season", then we agree and that was my feeling from the get-go.

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For LSU in 2011, 10-3 would be a disappointment. We've won SEC and NC titles, so I don't think expect another at least SEC title from time to time is expecting too much, given the talent we have and other circumstances I have detailed exhaustively for you, it is well with in our grasp in 2011.

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but you really are clueless about context based on your post. LSU just went 11-2 going 10-3 would be a step back.

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No, you are not back peddling at all. lol

You start with calling me a loser cause I state 10-2 would be a pretty good season based off our schedule and you wind up now calling it "a step back" as opposed to you 1st calling it a "disaster".

You can whine bout "context" all you want, but there is a mighty big difference between something being "a step back" and being a "disaster".

But enough of this, LSU looks to be in good shape for an SEC run, LSU was 11-2, won the Cotton Bowl, won 11 games for the 4th time in 6 years, was ranked in the Top 8 for the 4th time in 6 years, and we have our coach locked up for 7 years.....my life as a Tiger fan is pretty dang sweet and a good evening to you.

I think the original question that the OP proposed was basically...Do you think Miles has taken the ferrari he was given and taken care of it?...changed the oil...tuned it up...detailed it...etc etc..

I would have to say yes. This team is so damn loaded it's ridiculous. He's had top 10 classes every year. If he hits at least a triple with the OC hire..this teamed is primed for a NC shot in the next 2 years.

The LSU football program is as healthy as a strapping 20 year old in the military. Solid.

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So if we lose 3 games this year you think Miles will wring his hands and wonder what will happen to him because of your non-acceptance?

Hope this helps.

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It helps a lot, I thought for sure Les Miles was deeply concerned over my view of his teams and my expectations. I had no clue he doesn't know who I am or care, thanks for clearing that up Greg Brady