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re: the 2011 season and the 7th year of Les Miles.
Posted on 1/18/11 at 9:38 am to TigerintheNO
Posted on 1/18/11 at 9:38 am to TigerintheNO
Hard to blame a coach/players for taking it abit easy after winning it all.
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Posted on 1/18/11 at 10:00 am to H-Town Tiger
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With that we should not accept a 9-3 season and the Cotton or Cap One Bowl in 2011.
What does that even mean, "we should not accept a 9-3 season"?
If LSU ends up 9-3 we should just send it back?
Or should we abandon the team and either start pulling for another team or ignore college football altogether?
Or is it really just another example of internet tough talk without any meaningfull way to back it up?
Posted on 1/18/11 at 10:10 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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What does that even mean, "we should not accept a 9-3 season"?
If LSU ends up 9-3 we should just send it back?
Or should we abandon the team and either start pulling for another team or ignore college football altogether?
Or is it really just another example of internet tough talk without any meaningfull way to back it up?
are ya'll really that simple minded. When H-town says "accepting" he is referring to one simple thing. The 2011 LSU Tiger football team will be the best we've seen from top to bottom in 30 plus years, and that saying alot. If we have a 9-3 season, will it be accepted, of course it will. But, if you are a fan that follows the Tigers closely year after year, 9-3 will be very hard to swallow. Is that a better definition for some of you.
Posted on 1/18/11 at 10:19 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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What does that even mean, "we should not accept a 9-3 season"?
If LSU ends up 9-3 we should just send it back?
Jesus, are you guys really this obtuse?
No, we should never have expectations and just be happy no matter what happens. Never want or expect your team to win, just be happy if they happen to, is that it? That's no fun. Its much more fun when your team wins it all. We have a great chance to do so in the next couple of years. These chances are relatively rare.
If LSU goes 9-3 next year it will be a disappointing season.
Posted on 1/18/11 at 10:22 am to MsGulfCoastTigerFan
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If we have a 9-3 season, will it be accepted, of course it will.
So you agree with me that H-Town's statement:
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we should not accept a 9-3 season
makes no sense...?
People just need to have the serenity to accept the things they cannot change, the courage to change the things they can, and the wisdom to know the difference.
Posted on 1/18/11 at 10:24 am to lsuexpert57
and remember, we are a relatively small agricultural university in a small agricultural/fishing/hunting state. some players come from the city, but most were raised on bayous and in the wilderness of the pines.
i really believe huey long's ATTITUDE i the driving force behind lsu's / louisiana's belief in self.
(oops, sorry if off target or german.)
i really believe huey long's ATTITUDE i the driving force behind lsu's / louisiana's belief in self.
(oops, sorry if off target or german.)
Posted on 1/18/11 at 10:32 am to H-Town Tiger
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Jesus, are you guys really this obtuse?
No, it's just that your statement is all bluster and no meaning.
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No, we should never have expectations...
I don't, expectations lead to disappointment.
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just be happy no matter what happens.
Well, YEAH. Why not?
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Never want or expect your team to win.
Here's the main problem, you need to learn how to seperate these two things, want and expectation.
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...just be happy if they happen to [win], is that it?
If you want to be considered 'well-adjusted', yeah.
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That's no fun.
So you say it's no fun being happy? You have more fun being dissappointed?
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Its much more fun when your team wins it all.
Yes, it is. But it's no fun at all being devestated when they don't - and the probability is that they won't.
So if you expect them to win it all, the chances are that you'll be disappointed. If that's what you consider 'fun', I'm glad I'm not invited to your parties.
Posted on 1/18/11 at 10:34 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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If we have a 9-3 season, will it be accepted, of course it will.
So you agree with me that H-Town's statement:
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we should not accept a 9-3 season
makes no sense...?
Really? Must we play this stupid exact words game over and over? Ms knows what I meant, why can't the rest of you figure it out and leave it in the context of sports?
We have a team that can be special in 2011. 9-3 is not a special season for a team that just went 11-2, will have most of the starters back, lots of young talent, a favorable schedule and will start the next year in the top 5. By not accepting 9-3 I mean we should not say way to go coach, 9 wins is a lot in the SEC. An SEC title and maybe another NC would be nice, but shucks, 9 wins is great
If you really think I will be sitting on ledge if we go 9-3, you really need a perpective check, not everything said about sports (or anything) should be taken so literally. Sorry I'm not articulate enough to express that better.
Posted on 1/18/11 at 10:43 am to H-Town Tiger
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If you really think I will be sitting on ledge if we go 9-3, you really need a perpective check
And if you think we should be disappointed with a 9-3 season, you need a reality check.
That's my point.
This idea that we should not accept it is just dumb - and leads to a lot of ill will amongst the fans and against the team that is definitely NOT conducive to supporting the players.
Posted on 1/18/11 at 10:57 am to WildTchoupitoulas
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No, it's just that your statement is all bluster and no meaning.
its a fricking message board, what do you expect
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Here's the main problem, you need to learn how to seperate these two things, want and expectation.
and you need to learn perpective and context and not take everything someone posts literally. Thanks for the vocab lesson thought.
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So you say it's no fun being happy? You have more fun being dissappointed?
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If you want to be considered 'well-adjusted', yeah.
So you say it's no fun being happy? You have more fun being dissappointed?
No, that's not what i said. Its sports man for crying out loud, not real life. If you think I can't seperate the 2 because we are discussing team expectations on a message board you are sadly mistaken. Man, do you really take everything this literally? When LSU wins a big game, like Bama this year, I'm happy for the rest of the week. We lose, like Arkansas, I'm a little bummed for about 15-30 minutes after the game, then I move on with my weekend. Forums like this give us a chance to vent and argue about meaningless topics like sports. If you think it extends to everuy aspect of my life, I don't know what to say except its some what ironic that you are calling me out for basically lacking perspective.
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So if you expect them to win it all, the chances are that you'll be disappointed.
I do not expect them to win them all. I do expect the 2011 team to do better than 9-3. Yes i will disappoint, with in the context of sports, if LSU goes 9-3, it won't impact any other aspect of my life.
Posted on 1/18/11 at 12:36 pm to WildTchoupitoulas
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And if you think we should be disappointed with a 9-3 season, you need a reality check.
That's my point.
and my point is you need to learn how to put things into context and not take things "said" on message board quite so literally. Coming off an 11-2 season, with what should be a better team, with a more favorable schedule and starting the season in the top 5, sorry 9-3 would be disappointing. Doesn't mean I won't be able to function or that the coaches shoule be fired and the players scholarships revoked, but it would be disappointing.
Posted on 1/18/11 at 2:09 pm to MsGulfCoastTigerFan
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Thoughts?
Me? I think the program is far ahead of where nearly everyone thought it was back in the fall. We are loaded, and 2011 will be an exciting season for us from the onset.
Having said that.....(drumroll, please)
Now for reality: Even if we're 11-0 going into the Arkansas game in 2011, somebody will still be bitching about the offense.
....from 08, 09, 10, AND 2011.
This post was edited on 1/18/11 at 2:11 pm
Posted on 1/18/11 at 2:38 pm to oleheat
I, for one, am hopeful and optimistic that this will be our year again. I feel more confident than ever, that this will be a 14-0 MNC season. I would be disappointed, but not ungrateful, for anything less than 11-2 and a New Years Day Bowl.
Despite losing some key players, many younger players will step up their game. I feel quarterback play will improve and the D will be solid as ever.
I'm confident in Miles and whomever he chooses as the OC. My only concern is that the OC may take a couple of games to incorporate their system and it could take a while to learn the system. Other than that, the SEC will be ripe for the plucking, and LSU has as good a shot as any.
Despite losing some key players, many younger players will step up their game. I feel quarterback play will improve and the D will be solid as ever.
I'm confident in Miles and whomever he chooses as the OC. My only concern is that the OC may take a couple of games to incorporate their system and it could take a while to learn the system. Other than that, the SEC will be ripe for the plucking, and LSU has as good a shot as any.
This post was edited on 1/18/11 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 1/18/11 at 2:58 pm to MsGulfCoastTigerFan
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Looking back at the last 6 years, the good and the bad, give me your honest opinion on where Les Miles has the program going into 2011. Leave the posi/nega BS out. Just give what you honestly think about the state of the LSU football program in 2011.
I for one have always been a Miles guy, but 2008 and 2009 had me wondering if we were heading south. 2010 was an overachieving year considering the QB situation, but I think alot of credit has to go to Miles. When you look at 2010 as a whole, I think Miles proved himself to being a better game day coach. I think 2011 may very well be the year that defines Les Miles in regards of LSU lore. He has this program in as good of a position, from top to bottom, as a coach can get. If he wins the BCSNC in 2011, he will become the biggest sports figure at LSU since Billy Cannon, but have a 8-3, 9-2 year with this team and public preception might stick like glue.
Thoughts?
Great shape, but we'll probably have a consistent two-loss team until he can find ways to beat teams with dual threat QBs.
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