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re: The fanbase has never been so united against a HC since when?

Posted on 11/21/24 at 9:04 pm to
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
12898 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 9:04 pm to
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The fanbase has never been so united against a HC since when?
Since Hudson "Curley" Hallman was the HC.

The fan base was pretty "United" against Archer, Hallman, DiNardo, Dumbo and Shrimpy too there at the end.

When it's time to depart the gates of Dear Ole LSU, most of the fans know it and will stay home.

BK getting pretty close right now, but not quite there fully yet.

I want to see what he does to the "Used Car Salesmen" on the Offensive Staff after the season is over. (There's at least 3 that should be sent packing)..........
Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
2054 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 9:04 pm to
I see no lack of effort on the part of LSU players. That is a bad appraisal on your part. Take the Florida loss as an example. Wow, LSU didn't try at all to win that game. LSU just had twice the first downs...twice the time of possession....more rushing yards...more passing yards,etc. LSU lost the game on lost red zone success but to act like LSU players didn't try to win that game is downright ridiculous!! Once again, there is 0 evidence of your claim. YOUR opinion is NOT evidence!
Posted by SportsGuyNOLA
New Orleans, LA
Member since May 2014
20087 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 9:05 pm to
Kelly is the most-hated HC in LSU history

Literally everyone I know hates him

It’s never been this bad before

Curly was bad, but never hated like this arse-faced yankee
Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
2054 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 9:09 pm to
Once again, nothing like a good old interpretation on your part of a very chaotic scene as it always is. Once again, 0 evidence! Why don't you find a quote condemning Kelly. You also didn't say which player you were talking about...Nabers or Thomas.
Posted by BornAndRaised_LA
Springfield, VA
Member since Oct 2018
5970 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 9:10 pm to
LOL. At the end of Orgeron’s tenure it was so much worse.

Yes, O had the best season ever, but it was entirely clear after 2020 and 2021 that he was a good recruiter and mascot, but had no pages in the binder to actually run a program. Everyone knew he was cooked.
Posted by Thorny
Montgomery, AL
Member since May 2008
2071 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 10:02 pm to
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Yes, O had the best season ever, but it was entirely clear after 2020 and 2021 that he was a good recruiter and mascot, but had no pages in the binder to actually run a program. Everyone knew he was cooked.


Exactly. Doesn't anyone remember this board after the UCLA game? When he spent the day before shopping in downtown L.A. with a big-tit blonde? When he challenged a fan with the "sissy-blue jersey" comment?

We couldn't get rid of him fast enough.
Posted by dandan
Member since Nov 2007
4660 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 10:07 pm to
Kelly somehow keeps getting worse too.

He has basically 0 support now. And the media is laughing at him as well.

Posted by BZ504
Texas
Member since Oct 2005
11593 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 10:21 pm to
I didn’t care for Miles because of his offense and stubbornness to run the football on 1st and 2nd down which included the jet sweep and toss dive. However, his teams were physical on both sides of the ball, especially on both lines. I haven’t see the physicality of BK’s teams yet.
Posted by Viking5589
Dallas,Tx
Member since Dec 2012
73 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 10:36 pm to
Two of your wide receivers get into a screaming match with the head coach on the sidelines. That’s NOT a good look. I can almost guarantee Nuss hates Kelly’s guts. The offensive coach called TERRIBLE plays for Nuss. A lot of pressure was put on Nuss. Goes with the territory I know. Kelly ruined the LSU kicker. LSU will be lucky to be middle of the conference next year.
Posted by bertderouen
Member since Jan 2017
1167 posts
Posted on 11/21/24 at 11:01 pm to
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The fanbase has never been so united against a HC since when?


Literally always.
Posted by NotaStarGazer
Member since Dec 2023
2054 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 3:55 am to
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Two of your wide receivers get into a screaming match with the head coach on the sidelines. That’s NOT a good look. I can almost guarantee Nuss hates Kelly’s guts. The offensive coach called TERRIBLE plays for Nuss. A lot of pressure was put on Nuss. Goes with the territory I know. Kelly ruined the LSU kicker. LSU will be lucky to be middle of the conference next year.


Yeah, I have never ever seen a player and a coach have an issue on the sidelines. Do you even watch football games. As far as Hilton goes, I would have been screaming at the guy also. I have NEVER EVER seen a WRer who time after time jumps way early on balls thrown to him. Kelly says they have instructed him a lot not to do that...he still does it. You know a bad look...a WRer who can't learn a simple technique. THAT is a bad look.

Once again, you anti-Kelly people keep coming up with subjective statements and trying to represent them as facts. You have 0 evidence that Nussmeier hates Kelly...none! I will say that Nussmeier's football liabilities are numerous. He makes poor decisions and takes too long to even make them. He never throws an accurate long ball. And he refuses to run when the field is wide open. That is not Kelly's fault nor Sloan's fault. Low football IQ is on Nussmeier. Funny, Daniels didn't have problems improving did he. How on the planet earth did Kelly "ruin a kicker" and who the hell are you even talking about? Kelly is not special teams coach! I would suggest following curling because football is clearly above your pay grade.
This post was edited on 11/22/24 at 4:00 am
Posted by TN Tygah
Member since Nov 2023
6651 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 4:21 am to
What?

Your memory is fricking terrible

The hate for BK comes nowhere near where it was when Miles and O were fired. And people were feeling that for years with Miles, and for a year and a half at least with Orgeron
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 4:24 am to
Everyone but pirate queef wanted orgeron fired.
Posted by Croozin2
Somewhere on the water
Member since Dec 2004
3240 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 4:52 am to
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It was the Wisconsin game


I don’t usually let games get to me but I remember being extremely angry after that game.
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
67985 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 6:06 am to
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How likable or unlikable a coach is doesn’t really matter.


I have to disagree. If a coach has a struggling team but in his post game pressers he seems like he genuinely cares and he identifies issues and answers questions well and on the sidelines he is doing his best to pump up the team or keep them driving and he commands respect on and off the field it’s very easy to give him a pass or another chance or the benefit of the doubt.

Kelly look lost and confused on the sidelines. And when he does yell at a ref or a player it always seems to be at an awkward time or unnecessary. His post game interviews are frustrating and completely lacking in passion or even commitment. He just trots out nonchalantly and mumbles through a list of problems like an old man reading a grocery bill. Every loss he walks to the podium and spits out 3 minutes of lame excuses followed by a canned meaningless platitude. “We should’ve moved the ball better. We need better red zone offense. The players need to execute. We have to do better as coaches.”

Those are generic things a chatbot would say about any losing sports game and he says them with the passion and interest of a middle aged waitress at chilis telling you your salad dressing options.

It comes down to respect. You can like or dislike a guy or love or hate a guy but if you respect him you will unite behind him or give him another chance.

No one seems to respect Kelly. Not the players. Not the fans. Not the opposing coaches. Not the media. Respect is not something you can argue for or some nuance you have to explain. Respect is evident. You either have it or you don’t. And it’s evident from the attitude of the players and the fans he doesn’t have our respect.
This post was edited on 11/22/24 at 6:15 am
Posted by Breesus
House of the Rising Sun
Member since Jan 2010
67985 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 6:14 am to
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The hate for BK comes nowhere near where it was when Miles and O were fired


People wanted O and Miles fired but we didn’t all hate them. That’s not he same thing. They both won us championships and they both seemed like ok guys. Some people hated them and yeah we wanted them fired but it wasn’t a unanimous vitriol. Like it is now.

Brian Kelly hasn’t won shite. He is getting progressively worse. He’s not likable. His on field product is dogshit. He wasted a first round draft pick with dogshit defensive play and now it seems the wheels are coming off the program. He hasn’t earned our respect or the right to lose a game. And he has no answers and no confidence and no solution and no hope shown anywhere I can see.

After the Florida game he said something to the effect of: “We have a program in place same as we have since the beginning of the season and we’ll just keep working on that program. That’s how I coached for decades and I’ll keep doing it.” That’s an unbelievably short sited idiotic statement to make after your 3rd straight loss.

I hope this dude turns it around but I have less than 0% confidence Kelly even possesses the ability to be a top level coach at this point.
This post was edited on 11/22/24 at 6:17 am
Posted by loogaroo
Welsh
Member since Dec 2005
36599 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 6:16 am to
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Smoke Laval.


That was maddening. Tepper writing a book about how to beat Florida might be second.
Posted by PureBlood
The Motherland
Member since Oct 2021
4888 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 6:17 am to
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Kelly


Is in wayyyyyyy over his head in SEC.

The wheels falling off this bad is concerning. He's been here almost 3 years with whatever coaches he has wanted, and a lavish NIL budget and we're a shite squad.

The next 5 years are going to be very very painful
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
28354 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 6:19 am to
Most intelligent fans don’t share your opinion.
Geez. Go look at the careers (and threads) of those last 2. 2008 and 9, Les should have been fired. Orgeron should never have been hired. His behavior could never be masked.

Stop the bull shite.
Posted by Big Gorilla
Bossier City
Member since Oct 2020
5956 posts
Posted on 11/22/24 at 6:46 am to
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How likable or unlikable a coach is doesn’t really matter.


100%. Saban is a dbag but he is a winner so anyone would love to have him.
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