re: Texags in the early stages of grief...

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We won't care if we hire a big-name OC. However, if we simply promote Ensminger, you can't rule out that A&M played us pretty well.

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And it'll be 8 in a row next year


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They've got Jimbo guaranteed $$ til 2027

So, ending negotiations and simply hiring your DL coach is more successful than identifying 5 or 6 elite candidates and landing one of those guys within 2 weeks of negotiations?

Tell me truthfully, would the sports world have considered A&M more successful if they offered their DC position to their existing DL coach than poaching away ND's existing DC?

Please explain how our administration got caught flat footed with our DC under contract making 1.5 million/year?

No, it's not. They put themselves in the untenable position of being uniquely dependent upon a DC for long-term success. A&M saw an opportunity to both get the best DC in college FB and cripple a hated rival. It was a great strategy. I think it didn't work because LSU made Aranda HC in waiting and A&M wasn't able to do that. I applaud LSU for coming to a deal and reacting quickly, with Aranda but they never should have been in that position. I define that as flat-footed. If you want to be more precise, LSU didn't see the vulnerability and let itself get in an extremely risky position. Elite managers are paid not to do stuff like that. This was a huge near-miss.

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Tell me truthfully, would the sports world have considered A&M more successful if they offered their DC position to their existing DL coach than poaching away ND's existing DC?


Than LSU? No.

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Name one credible, independent source that considered LSU's hiring of Ed Orgeron a success. Name one source that considered that a more desirable outcome than hiring either Fisher or Orgeron.

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A&M saw an opportunity to both get the best DC in college FB and cripple a hated rival. It was a great strategy.

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It didn't work, they failed, LSU won

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Name one credible, independent source that considered LSU's hiring of Ed Orgeron a success.

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I'm not sure why no one can comprehend what you're saying.

It's like they're arguing Alleva conducted a flawless coaching search, but A&M didn't because their top choices said no.

LSU GrandDad, you are the one who originally challenged my assertion that Alleva could learn something from A&M's negotiations. Now that I've clearly explained my position, do you agree or not that A&M did a better job hiring its DC than LSU did in hiring its HC?

Orgeron was clearly not LSU's guy, they bailed on the only two elite coaches they identified and prematurely shut down negotiations to avoid (what they thought would be) an embarrassing situation of being declined by Fisher and Herman, and they inconvenienced none of their rivals with his hiring.

There were several people on here earlier laughing at A&M, calling them stupid, etc. All I did was to provide a comparison.

I support LSU but Alleva put it in a difficult position when he hired O as head coach. He may turn out to be an adequate caretaker but he brings nothing strategically. He is unduly dependent on elite coordinators to maintain moderate success. Mile was sort of like this to, but Miles seemed to manage his coordinators better. O bears at least most of the responsibility for the Canada failure. LSU fired Miles because 9 wins a year and no SEC championships wasn't good enough. The new coach was supposed to change that. You might argue Orgeron "is not a failure at LSU so far." I say he isn't a success either. Reminding people of stuff like that is not failing to "move on" its maintaining reasonable expectations. That's also something Alleva should be doing to O and Alluvia's boss should be doing to him.

However, my sole point was to state that A&M handled their negotiation extremely well - much better than what Alleva has done. They are an example to what he should be doing. I'm actually kind of surprised by all of the defensive responses to my posts.

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t's like they're arguing Alleva conducted a flawless coaching search, but A&M didn't because their top choices said no.


I was discussing DCs LSU kept theirs

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That's fine but that's not what I asked, mainly because it is not an apples-to-apples comparison. A&M poached an elite DC (from ND); LSU paid to keep its on staff. A more apt comparison is comparing it to LSU's HC search. Hopefully, LSU has learned from its prior experience and A&M's recent experience and doesn't name two elite candidates then bail when initially rebuffed to name a cut-rate candidate.