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re: Terrace Marshall vs. Ja'Marr Chase - Draft

Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:40 pm to
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:40 pm to
Lester knows absolutely 0 about the football community or how it works. He doesn’t understand how prospects are vetted or even how they’re identified initially. The dude doesn’t know anything besides mommy, his xbox and his mommy’s couch. The guy says DJ Chark couldn’t play in the NFL and has made countless stupid predictions of players like that.
This post was edited on 10/13/20 at 7:41 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:42 pm to
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The relevancy is, that the guys evaluating and ranking these players know their potential to one day play in the NFL. The guys that assign them these stars do so based off metrics. The same metrics they use in the NFL.


Except they take those measurement 3-4 years beforw the NFL takes them.

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1. Why are 90% of NFL players 4 or 5 star recruits coming out of high school if it doesn’t mean shite? That’s your point, own it bitch.


1. That’s not true.
LINK

Quit making shut up.
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Why do the best college coaches and programs recruit and primarily field 4 and 5 star recruits if it doesn’t matter? That’s another one of your points, own it bitch.


Those players tend to be the ones at camps and coaches tend to recruit from their camps.

DUUUUUUUH

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But we all know you have no answer to those questions. Continue your aversion techniques



Do you think coaches gave 2 fricks about Burrow, Jefferson or CEH’s 3 star rankings?
Posted by LSURN98
Jupiter
Member since Oct 2019
448 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:43 pm to
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You think coaches give a shite about what a guy making texting 17 years olds thinks about a players potential.


No, I don’t think that. I’m not a pussy like you. I know it for a fact. NFL coaches reach out to college coaches constantly to get a fee for a players character. The conversations regarding Bill Bellichick and Nick Saban are well documented.

The coaching community is a small and elite group, and many pro and college coaches have very close ties. The two interact quite often.

Anything else you need me to school you on bitch?
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66383 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:47 pm to
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No, I don’t think that. I’m not a pussy like you. I know it for a fact. NFL coaches reach out to college coaches constantly to get a fee for a players character. The conversations regarding Bill Bellichick and Nick Saban are well documented.


College coaches don’t make those rankings, you fricking moron.
This post was edited on 10/13/20 at 7:48 pm
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278220 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:47 pm to
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The relevancy is,


I asked you the relevancy to nfl coaches & decision makers that are making draft pick choices


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Now, answer these questions:
1. Why are 90% of NFL players 4 or 5 star recruits coming out of high school if it doesn’t mean shite? That’s your point, own it bitch.


You can’t even cite the irrelevant statistic correctly lol


Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47651 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:50 pm to
91.6% of 5* players make it to the NFL. 90% of the NFL isn’t made up of 5* just to clarify. But that number does prove your point that scouts evaluating elite HS players are almost always right. It’s funny these two will do cartwheels when we land a 5* kid but are now pretending it doesn’t mean anything. Totally hypocrisy which happens to be a running theme in these arguments.
This post was edited on 10/13/20 at 7:52 pm
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66383 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:53 pm to
5* are 5 stars for a reason.

It’s dumb to ignore their actual production and pretend it means something more than being a great player.

Joe Burrow was a 3*.

He went ahead of Tua.

They’re not gonna give a kind to a guy because he was a 5*.
This post was edited on 10/13/20 at 7:56 pm
Posted by LSURN98
Jupiter
Member since Oct 2019
448 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:56 pm to
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Except they take those measurement 3-4 years beforw the NFL takes them.


So what dumbass? If my IQ is 170 is it worse 4 years later? What a fricking dumb statement.

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1. That’s not true. LINK Quit making shut up.


You link one year? fricking idiot. You would have a great point if ONLY 2020 draft picks were playing. So fricking stupid.

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Those players tend to be the ones at camps and coaches tend to recruit from their camps.


And why do they invite them to their camps dumbass??? Could it have anything to do with them being the BEST players? DUUUUUUUUUH

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Do you think coaches gave 2 fricks about Burrow, Jefferson or CEH’s 3 star rankings?


Yeah actually, I do. I think the coaches that didn’t recruit them believed the rankings and were wrong. Bub that’s a question for them, not me. And obviously they were wrong. I’m sure you have Nick and Dabo on speed dial with all your expertise tho
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47651 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:56 pm to
And nobody said we should.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278220 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:58 pm to
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It’s funny these two will do cartwheels when we land a 5* kid but are now pretending it doesn’t mean anything


We are still waiting for you to explain what it means to nfl teams
Posted by LSURN98
Jupiter
Member since Oct 2019
448 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:58 pm to
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College coaches don’t make those rankings, you fricking moron.


No shite. They just recruit based off of them, you fricking moron. Lmfao
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47651 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:58 pm to
You’re a hypocrite. In one statement you hold NFL coaches as the top deciders on talent eval, in the next you laugh at NFL coaches credibility. You’re so delusional you think you can lie and make conflicting statements without anyone noticing.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47651 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:59 pm to
I’ve already answered that with data to prove it, keep lying.
This post was edited on 10/13/20 at 8:00 pm
Posted by LSURN98
Jupiter
Member since Oct 2019
448 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 7:59 pm to
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They’re not gonna give a kind to a guy because he was a 5*.


English mother fricker. Do you speak it??? Stupid arse bitch
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66383 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 8:01 pm to
Suck my dick.

If y’all were right Kyle Allen would be a first rounder and Pat Mahomes would be selling insurance
Posted by LSURN98
Jupiter
Member since Oct 2019
448 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 8:03 pm to
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1. Why are 90% of NFL players 4 or 5 star recruits coming out of high school if it doesn’t mean shite? That’s your point, own it bitch. Why do the best college coaches and programs recruit and primarily field 4 and 5 star recruits if it doesn’t matter? That’s another one of your points, own it bitch.


Answers please.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47651 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 8:04 pm to
Kyle Allen is an NFL starter for 2 years now in his 3rd season and nobody is making the argument you’re suggesting. You guys makeup arguments that don’t exist to counter because you can’t counter the actual statements.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66383 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 8:04 pm to
He can’t answer your question because your numbers are WRONG.

90% of NFL players AREN’T 4 and 5 stars.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278220 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 8:06 pm to
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No shite. They just recruit based off of them, you fricking moron. Lmfao



You are today years old when you learn that recruiting sites toggle their rankings based off of who college coaches offer scholarship
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158754 posts
Posted on 10/13/20 at 8:08 pm to
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No shite. They just recruit based off of them, you fricking moron. Lmfao


Oh you poor child
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