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Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:30 am to Lebowski
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T Bob says it’s scheme not players
Why does T Bob hate coach O and LSU?????
Am I doing this right Otards?
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:30 am to The Pirate King
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His explanation of why it was scheme was quite a reach. The issue is because of the o line sucking and burrow having a relatively slow wind up and release.
He wants us to run a spread air raid and do more quick passes. While I agree, Burrow’s release will get a shite load of those balls picked off, not to mention that if the WR don’t get open, it just puts our defense on the field more quickly.
I want more spread up tempo stuff, but at the moment with the o line struggles, those concepts will get joe killed by game 4-5.
You can run an offense to account for the o-line woes. Look at the Packers just last night. Getting crushed in the first half and Rodgers got banged up. He comes back in the 2nd half on one leg, but they changed what they were doing and the whole game changed. Spreading them out and getting off quick, intermediate passes lets your athletes break them into more.
I'm not saying Burrow is anything close to Rodgers but the concept rings true...4-5 WR sets spreads the defense and allows them to get separation. They have talent so get it to them in space and let them work. Same with the RBs. Worst case you are at least picking up yards and first downs, but we have the athletes to break some of this for a big gain or a TD on occasion. This also allows us to sustain drives and control the clock more, which in turn will help the already great defense even more. They'll create TOs and short fields which puts our offense in great position to score more. It should all function together.
The OL is a major problem but we can scheme around it. I just don't think we have the coaches that know how to do it.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:31 am to windmill
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The powers that be that hired him believe he is qualified
that tells you all you need to know about the "powers that be."
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:32 am to SportTiger1
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obviously not. he has never once been a coordinator
Actually he has. He appointed himself defensive coordinator at Ole Miss.
As for the OP. This is exactly the offense I expected. Ranked in the 100's with O's thumbprint all over it just like every f-ed up offense he had at Ole Miss.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:34 am to LNCHBOX
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You and every a-hole like you are the reason we have this garbage administration running our program
Congratulations you win the prize for the dumbest post of the day. Dumbass.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:37 am to TheHat7
Not sure why LSU has such a difficult time understanding the flats, screens, curls and slants.
We have to get the ball in the receivers hands early and give them a chance to make a play.
We have to get the ball in the receivers hands early and give them a chance to make a play.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:37 am to skullhawk
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He was piggybacking on what Matt Flynn said last week and during the game, going max protect is an offense killer.
This is true, but when we weren't in max protect, we couldn't block anyone. Until we shore up the OL, I don't care what scheme we have, we aren't going to be able to move the ball consistently. The injuries and suspensions certainly haven't helped with that.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:37 am to Lebowski
We had 11 players not play If this was a Miles era team. The score would have been 24 to 13
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:41 am to Starchild
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You can run an offense to account for the o-line woes. Look at the Packers just last night. Getting crushed in the first half and Rodgers got banged up. He comes back in the 2nd half on one leg, but they changed what they were doing and the whole game changed. Spreading them out and getting off quick, intermediate passes lets your athletes break them into more.
It's a lot easier to mask deficiencies when you have arguably the best QB in the world on your team who is also one of the most elusive QBs in the pocket of all-time.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:43 am to mhc4tigers
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We had 11 players not play If this was a Miles era team. The score would have been 24 to 13
Miles blew shite teams out way more often than not. quote:
We've done it plenty of times.
2014 we had scores of 56-0, 63-7, 41-3. We also had a sloppy 31-0 in there as well to be fair. In
2012 (new QB year), we opened with 500 yards of offense in a 41-14 win, followed up by 41-3 and 63-14. Coincidentally that 63-14 came in the game before heading to Auburn the next week.
The myth that Les didn't beat the doors off of weak times needs to go away. Much like all the other propaganda that CheeriOs spout, it's a lie.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:43 am to Starchild
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You can run an offense to account for the o-line woes. Look at the Packers just last night. Getting crushed in the first half and Rodgers got banged up. He comes back in the 2nd half on one leg, but they changed what they were doing and the whole game changed. Spreading them out and getting off quick, intermediate passes lets your athletes break them into more. I'm not saying Burrow is anything close to Rodgers but the concept rings true...4-5 WR sets spreads the defense and allows them to get separation. They have talent so get it to them in space and let them work. Same with the RBs. Worst case you are at least picking up yards and first downs, but we have the athletes to break some of this for a big gain or a TD on occasion. This also allows us to sustain drives and control the clock more, which in turn will help the already great defense even more. They'll create TOs and short fields which puts our offense in great position to score more. It should all function together. The OL is a major problem but we can scheme around it. I just don't think we have the coaches that know how to do it.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:46 am to rickyh
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So Traore got beat consistantly because of scheme? Right
Yes because when you see that happening, you fricking change the scheme so it doesn’t affect the plays as much.
That’s offensive coaching 101.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:48 am to rmnldr
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It’s execution of the scheme. LSU is running formations, plays, route concepts, and pass protections that every team in the country uses. It just comes down to whether the players can execute it. The OL is struggling to do that and it’s bogging the entire offense down.
Wrong
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:48 am to lsufball19
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It's a lot easier to mask deficiencies when you have arguably the best QB in the world on your team who is also one of the most elusive QBs in the pocket of all-time.
Did you watch the game? I'm not arguing that he isn't one of the best. That's a fact. Burrow is not Rodgers, but we honestly still do not know what he is yet. Part of that is because the scheme doesn't really help him.
But Rodgers was in no way elusive in the 2nd half. He often kept his left leg off the ground and wasn't really stepping into many throws. There was clearly something amiss. He was just making throws quickly to avoid the pass rush and rarely got hit as a result.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:49 am to Lebowski
Who cares what TBob says
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 11:51 am
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:49 am to lsufball19
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This is true, but when we weren't in max protect, we couldn't block anyone. Until we shore up the OL, I don't care what scheme we have, we aren't going to be able to move the ball consistently. The injuries and suspensions certainly haven't helped with that.
Agree and folks dismiss having a bunch of new WRs too quickly. SE pointed out that the group is missing a lot of assignments. They'll get better with reps.
Having said all of that, the 5 guys LSU trots out on Saturday if far from the worst offensive line in the conference. The staff has to run plays that help them out. Asking them to man up for long developing routes isn't doing them any favors.
Same goes for asking new WRs to find space when covered by 3 defenders when they go max protect.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:52 am to lsufball19
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This is true, but when we weren't in max protect, we couldn't block anyone. Until we shore up the OL, I don't care what scheme we have, we aren't going to be able to move the ball consistently.
OK, but you will at least agree that there are ways to scheme around a deficient offensive line, right? No one is asking or expecting them to magically become the Packers and Aaron Rodgers but showing some proficiency in adjusting scheme when your line is getting man-handled by an FCS opponent (not simply going to max protect and hoping for the best) would be nice.
This post was edited on 9/10/18 at 11:54 am
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:53 am to Lebowski
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T Bob says it’s scheme not players
I agree. An offensive repeat from the Miles era.
I'm not saying it's not the scheme, but you'd have to be a blind moron not to realize there are talent issues on the OL. And, you'd have to be doubly retarded to not see it with Charles out of the lineup.
Posted on 9/10/18 at 11:59 am to The Pirate King
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While I agree, Burrow’s release will get a shite load of those balls picked off, not to mention that if the WR don’t get open, it just puts our defense on the field more quickly.
This observation about Burrows' release may be more easily fixed than it would first appear. Many QBs with good instincts, good field awareness and presence often fear to make mistakes which will cost their team. This fear and a misguided desire for unattainable perfection leads to hesitation and aiming passes instead of just throwing the ball.
Just throw the damn ball Joe, you know how and will do fine.
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