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re: stop blaming CPM for the 2-2 Pitch out that was Dunn's call
Posted on 5/3/14 at 4:11 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
Posted on 5/3/14 at 4:11 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
See my post at the top of this page 2.
This post was edited on 5/3/14 at 4:11 pm
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Posted on 5/3/14 at 4:11 pm to Hold That Tiger 10
Posted above, but tie score, bottom of the 9th, no outs, winning run on 1st (their top base stealer), 1-2 count on the hitter.
Posted on 5/3/14 at 4:12 pm to Mickey Goldmill
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Lol it's not stupid. It's called taking a risk. Do you know the difference?
Yea I know the difference. It's a very very stupid call and if you think otherwise you sir are stupid too
Posted on 5/3/14 at 4:13 pm to MOT
I thought it was a 1-1 count?
Posted on 5/3/14 at 4:14 pm to TigerCub
Pretty sure it was 1-2, would have to go back and check.
Posted on 5/3/14 at 4:14 pm to LSU=Champions
quote:
It was stupid and it didn't work.
Agree
Posted on 5/3/14 at 4:15 pm to MOT
it was 1-2
Posted on 5/3/14 at 4:16 pm to TigerCub
One was a 2-2 count.
Posted on 5/3/14 at 4:51 pm to catholictigerfan
What is our percentage for throwing Base Runners out, at Second?
Posted on 5/3/14 at 4:59 pm to Blind Boy Grunt
TV guys said Scivique had thrown out 7 of 18.
Posted on 5/3/14 at 5:07 pm to TigerCub
So the Runner had a pretty good chance, of stealing, anyway?
Posted on 5/3/14 at 5:10 pm to Blind Boy Grunt
The point of a pitch out is to give you a better chance should the runner steal...
And if he was gonna steal anyway, then why did the walk matter at all?
And if he was gonna steal anyway, then why did the walk matter at all?
This post was edited on 5/3/14 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 5/3/14 at 5:13 pm to Mickey Goldmill
Yes, I understand - I played Baseball for 7 Years.
But the odds were so poor, why waste two pitches?
But the odds were so poor, why waste two pitches?
Posted on 5/3/14 at 5:21 pm to bigpapamac
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You're not calling a 2-2 pitch out in that spot without running it by the manager. That goes beyond calling a pitch, that's a game management call.
I agree. And, the call was unorthodox for sure.
But, I can 100% guarantee you Mainieri wasn't guessing. They thought they picked up a signal. They didn't.
It happens. And, you can take the risk if you have the confidence in your pitcher that he can throw a strike.
Posted on 5/3/14 at 5:21 pm to Blind Boy Grunt
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Yes, I understand - I played Baseball for 7 Years.
But the odds were so poor, why waste two pitches?
I already told you, to improve the odds. The batter in that situation doesn't matter nearly as much as the base runner trying to get to second. McCune has not had problems with his command so you'd hope that he would be able to handle that situation and throw strikes when needed.
It didn't work out. It happens every day in baseball. The back to back pitchouts has worked for us more times than not.
Posted on 5/3/14 at 5:24 pm to UpToPar
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If the runner doesn't go, which he didn't, then he is definitely going to be off on the pitch in a 3-2 count. That means you have just taken yourself out of the DP and a ball in the gap or down the line for sure scores the run. You want to avoid going 3-2 at all costs there.
Somebody gets it.
Posted on 5/3/14 at 6:14 pm to LSU316
Obviously you call a pitch out when you think its more probable than not that they are stealing. It was a risk and today it didn't pay off.
ETA: And a ball in the gap doesn't necessarily score a run from first, even going on the pitch.
ETA: And a ball in the gap doesn't necessarily score a run from first, even going on the pitch.
This post was edited on 5/3/14 at 6:16 pm
Posted on 5/3/14 at 6:22 pm to Mickey Goldmill
The guy on first could fly, no question he scores on a ball in the gap if he is moving on the pitch.
Posted on 5/3/14 at 6:27 pm to MOT
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The guy on first could fly, no question he scores on a ball in the gap if he is moving on the pitch.
So many variables here it's not even worth arguing.
Posted on 5/3/14 at 7:04 pm to Mickey Goldmill
quote:Everything you say is invalid/worthless after you saying our bullpen is too young.
Mickey Goldmill
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