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re: Steve Ensminger's career as coach

Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:34 am to
Posted by mdtiger1
Great Northwest Louisiana
Member since Jan 2005
1435 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:34 am to
No. Football teams have run variations of the same plays for years. It's not like he has been in a vacuum and not aware of subtle changes.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:35 am to
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Well, I, like most LSU fans, want to be able to score vs good teams too.


Well, you unlike most fans don't realize that he took over mid season and was in his 4th game when LSU played Alabama.

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I know It doesn’t matter to you so long at O can best enough shitty teams on the schedule to stay hired, but I kinda worry about hiring a guy who scored 0 vs Bama.


You are like a broken record but worse. A person can turn off or take off a broken record.

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And Tiger1998 pointed out that Cam Cameron had more yards and points vs a comperable defense (Wisconsin)


Yeah, 257 yards is amazing offense. Was Cam Cameron coaching his 4th game as LSU's OC against Wisconsin? Was he using someone else's offense? Does it matter since LSU still lost the game?

Posted by mdtiger1
Great Northwest Louisiana
Member since Jan 2005
1435 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:37 am to
Nary a word has been spoken about "O". How'd he pop into your mind? Football has seen subtle changes but you can bet Ensminger has been watching, absorbing, adapting and ready to teach. If he fails it won't be because of a 20 year lapse in title.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78071 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:38 am to
all E has going for him is his interim coaching period and it wasn’t that impressive.

what makes you think he will do better as a full time OC? Just being around football?

It not being that hard to be an OC?

If either of those were true there would be shitty offenses out there.
Posted by beauxroux
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
2152 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:41 am to
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How did that go VS Bama in 2016?


The ever changing chorus of TRant-- does interim coaching count or not?
Posted by mdtiger1
Great Northwest Louisiana
Member since Jan 2005
1435 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:42 am to
Your comprehension level is pretty low it seems. Several coaches hold him in high regard. Those coaches are a bit smarter than you about football and what he achieved. He may fail miserably but there are MANY factors to winning a football game. What play is called takes a backseat to execution.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
29521 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:42 am to
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This is a paycheck towards retirement for a buddy of Orgeron.


Are you making shite up?


He is 59 you dumbass. He has said on multiple occasions he didn’t want the OC job and even had to be convinced by his son according to the article.. let’s se, any person that is my age, older than him but not yet 70, IS THINKING RETIREMENT EVERYDAY.
I’ve been retired for a while, so I know exactly what’s on his mind. Knowing how competitive he is is the only thing that drives him and it is what drove me in business. But at the end of the day, it is really about his wife and kids.
That’s where we get to.
If one can make bank just before that happens like he is set up to do, even better.

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Doesn't matter to me. Go for it if you want. Typical CheeriO response when they have zero argument.


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He scored 0 against Alabama. The #1 ranked team in the country. His offense gained over 400 yards against Florida. There was a bad snap on a FG, a turnover in the redzone and a RB mistake that kept LSU from scoring more than 10 points against UF.


Scoreboard said 10 points against 2 teams with good SCORING DEFENSES.
That is VERY RELEVANT in terms of play calling and what his past performance was.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78071 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:43 am to
it’s literally his #1 selling point.

If you discount it he hasn’t been an OC for 20 years

If you count it he was able to run all over shitty teams and couldn’t score vs Alabama.

So it’s in his favor to count it , but it’s not that favorable.

I dont Know what else he has going for him besides that 8 game stretch.
Posted by Tiger Ree
Houston
Member since Jun 2004
24563 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:44 am to
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all E has going for him is his interim coaching period and it wasn’t that impressive.


Maybe not to you. When someone looks at when and what he took over it was actually pretty impressive.

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what makes you think he will do better as a full time OC? Just being around football?


Being around football won't hurt. I think why he will do better is he will have better QB's that will get better with experience. He will have a better O-line to work with. He will have what may be one of the best O-line coaches in college football teaching the O-line. The LSU WR's should be the best at LSU since OBJ and Jarvis. That's a few off the top of my head.

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It not being that hard to be an OC?

If either of those were true there would be shitty offenses out there.


It may be because it is early on Sunday morning but I have no clue what you are trying to convey with the above words.
Posted by beauxroux
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Nov 2010
2152 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:46 am to
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I dont Know what else he has going for him besides that 8 game stretch.


I agree-- you don't know. Read the article and the comments from coaches that worked with him. I'm sure you know more than they do-- oh wait, you admitted, you don't know.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
78071 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:48 am to
I read The article and I would Be really hyped if it was 1996.

But it isn’t.

Half the article is interviews with Myles Brennan’s dad and Hs football coach
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
30368 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:49 am to
Yeah he gets glowing remarks from a coach that fired him and another that demoted him after one season.
Posted by Icansee4miles
Trolling the Tickfaw
Member since Jan 2007
31694 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:56 am to
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this is football not brian surgery


Which is why our past several OC's have been so successful. So easy a monkey can do it.

You are a bonafide idiot.
Posted by Space Cowboy
Member since Oct 2016
4079 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:00 am to
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How did that go VS Bama in 2016?


What did you expect? Bama new the plays coming before the ball was snapped. LSU could still beat most teams besides that shortcoming, but they weren't going to beat a team as good as Bama with that old antiquated offense.

Now Ensminger won't be hamstrung with that old antiquated offense this time around.

Nonetheless, I don't think anyone beats Bama in the next two seasons with Tua and that stable of really good receivers.

However, in 2020 when Bama is breaking in a new QB, that will be the time to beat Bama.

In any event, regardless of the score, I expect our offense to do better than it did in a long time against Bama with Ensminger and his new offense at the helm.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:10 am to
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Let's try to forget that it was his fourth game as the LSU OC and there was no way he could have installed his offense though, so it sounds worse than it is.


Let’s not forget he had called 3 games before this, then had a whole two weeks to install a game plan for Bama. He still managed only 125 yards and came close to sniffing the end zone one time. SE had been in the system he was running for 3+ years at that time(Cam’s system), but let’s not act like Cam’s system was drastically different from the previous OC.
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:12 am to
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Ensminger has been watching, absorbing, adapting and ready to teach


Then why has he been a TE coach, for a team with abysmal TE production for the last ~10 years?
Posted by BayouBengals18
Fort Worth
Member since Jan 2009
9843 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:13 am to
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any person that is my age, older than him but not yet 70, IS THINKING RETIREMENT EVERYDAY.


I’m 31 and I think about retirement all the time.
Posted by mdtiger1
Great Northwest Louisiana
Member since Jan 2005
1435 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:24 am to
That's what he was hired as and Miles and company didn't use TE except for blocking. Foster Moreau had a very good bowl game ib a loss. A TE position coach is also involved in OL and Receiver schemes and, of course, the QB. You just want to split hairs and be negative. Glad I don't have your miserable outlook!
Posted by Brazos
Member since Oct 2013
20557 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:27 am to
If he is such a great OC then why haven't other programs approached him with offers? Dont say he didn't want to be OC because if he's really good teams would have at least tried to poach him.
Posted by chitiger91
Lake Bluff IL
Member since Apr 2016
3120 posts
Posted on 1/21/18 at 11:27 am to
You have no ground to stand on, this fake pedestal you’re putting SE on is fooling no one. He was under qualified and has proven he doesn’t have what it takes. As long as terrible fans like u are around propping up the good ole boys it’s gojng to be difficult to make any progress. Fine with me tho I’m cool with keeping my money in my pocket rather than spend it on traveling to see that awful product.

We have two talented QBs eager to learn and further their careers, they need good teachers. What did we give them? A guide to a smooth retirement by 70. Enjoy those toss dives and go routes.
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