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Steve Ensminger's career as coach
Posted on 1/21/18 at 8:51 am
Posted on 1/21/18 at 8:51 am
It probably won't matter what the people "in the know" have to say. The minds of the uninformed and negatively slanted are made up without giving the situation a fair chance. Advocate article
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Posted on 1/21/18 at 8:56 am to mdtiger1
No one thinks SE is a poor coach. But no matter how you slice it, he has not run his own offense and called plays from his own offense in almost 20 years.
Does that honestly not concern you?
Does that honestly not concern you?
Posted on 1/21/18 at 8:57 am to mdtiger1
We know spread teams are a must. Can he REALLY run a spread consistently. Who on staff can?
Posted on 1/21/18 at 8:59 am to NoGeaux
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he has not run his own offense and called plays from his own offense in almost 20 years.
It's not like he is a surgeon who has not operated in 20 years. This is freaking football. People don't have to spend 8 years getting a college degree to be a football coach.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:04 am to Tiger Ree
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This is freaking football.
And defenses have changed over 20 years.
Are you suggesting there is no benefit from experience in calling plays, recognizing situations and adapting on the fly away from a gameplan you worked the whole week on bcs the opponent is showing a different look than anticipated?
I get you are on here for no other purpose than to prop up O. But at least be honest.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:05 am to NoGeaux
I honestly think he will put a really good offense on the field. OC or not he has been in football forever.
My concern is how we he handle in game defensive adjustments. I think this will be his downfall.
My concern is how we he handle in game defensive adjustments. I think this will be his downfall.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:11 am to NoGeaux
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And defenses have changed over 20 years.
AND SE has been coaching the last 20 years. It's what the guy does 12 to 14 hours a day. You don't think he has been in any of the meetings to come up with a gameplan against the defenses the last 20 years?
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Are you suggesting there is no benefit from experience in calling plays
He has experience calling plays. I am saying this is not brain surgery or rocket science. The guy has been around football his whole life. Not just a fan but doing actual coaching or playing.
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recognizing situations and adapting on the fly away from a gameplan you worked the whole week on bcs the opponent is showing a different look than anticipated?
this really isn't that difficult. If the plays you are calling are not working, call different plays. Again this if football not brain surgery.
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I get you are on here for no other purpose than to prop up O. But at least be honest
If that were true, wouldn't I have mentioned him?
This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 9:15 am
Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:24 am to Tiger Ree
So literally his biggest selling point, being brilliant, isn’t that important because it’s just football.
Sounds good. Glad all he has to do is call different plays till it works. How did that go VS Bama in 2016?
Sounds good. Glad all he has to do is call different plays till it works. How did that go VS Bama in 2016?
Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:34 am to SammyTiger
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So literally his biggest selling point, being brilliant,
Who's this?
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How did that go VS Bama in 2016?
He gained 57 less yards than LSU did the previous season against Bama. Let's try to forget that it was his fourth game as the LSU OC and there was no way he could have installed his offense though, so it sounds worse than it is.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:39 am to SammyTiger
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Sounds good. Glad all he has to do is call different plays till it works. How did that go VS Bama in 2016
Well, yeah. That game was the low point for SE’s offense in 2016. How much of that was play calling, QB play, or OL getting mishandled is hard to say.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:39 am to Tiger Ree
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It's not like he is a surgeon who has not operated in 20 years. This is freaking football. People don't have to spend 8 years getting a college degree to be a football coach
Coaches at this level spend as much or more time practicing their craft as any surgeon. The only positive spin is he hasn't been totally out of football just in a different role.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:42 am to NoGeaux
quote:It doesn’t concern him that O ran Ole Miss to new lows. Why would he care about E’s resume?
Does that honestly not concern you?
This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 9:43 am
Posted on 1/21/18 at 9:52 am to mdtiger1
I'm not sure what this article was meant to prove? It doesn't help or hurt either side's argument.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:01 am to Tiger Ree
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Let's try to forget that it was his fourth game as the LSU OC and there was no way he could have installed his offense though, so it sounds worse than it is.
Wasn’t he around all those players and HAD to know he offense as TE TE coach AND HAD called plays for 4 previous games.
All a major failure.
Do you really need me to post those stats again regarding the success he had and who he had it against in terms of the offense versus opponents defense? I could have called those plays and won with Guice and Fournette averaging 6 ypc again the likes of the 114th ranked MO defense or that great TAMu defense. How about that amazing Arky defense ranked in the back of the fourth quartile.
His offense produced 10 points against the only 2 solid scoring and rush defenses he played all season. That’s it. In fact Wisconsin was better than all of them by a mile except Bama and Brandon Freaking Harris lost it when he could have run and set up the GW FG.
So don’t act like this is some major hire you dumbass. This is a paycheck towards retirement for a buddy of Orgeron. she wasn’t worth a shite as a QB and he isn’t going to be worth a shite as an OC.
Is simple.
Can’t challenge for the West your not worth a shite.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:12 am to Tiger Ree
He only coached 8 games and he had 2 weeks to prepaid.
He didn’t change the offense we just ran all over shitty teams.
He didn’t change the offense we just ran all over shitty teams.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:12 am to mdtiger1
I don't know what the offense will look like next year, it could be great it could be terrible...what I do know is that it doesn't matter who it is calling plays, coaching, selling concessions, or sitting in the stands, LSU fans will find a reason to bitch, complain, and pretend the sky is falling
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:16 am to Tiger1988
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Wasn’t he around all those players and HAD to know he offense as TE TE coach AND HAD called plays for 4 previous games.
Previous 3 games. Alabama was his 4th game as the OC.
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Do you really need me to post those stats again regarding the success he had and who he had it against in terms of the offense versus opponents defense?
Doesn't matter to me. Go for it if you want.
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I could have called those plays and won with Guice and Fournette averaging 6 ypc again the likes of the 114th ranked MO defense or that great TAMu defense. How about that amazing Arky defense ranked in the back of the fourth quartile.
Well good for you. Did LSU lose any of the games you listed? Are you crying about LSU wins?
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His offense produced 10 points against the only 2 solid scoring and rush defenses he played all season.
He scored 0 against Alabama. The #1 ranked team in the country. His offense gained over 400 yards against Florida. There was a bad snap on a FG, a turnover in the redzone and a RB mistake that kept LSU from scoring more than 10 points against UF.
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In fact Wisconsin was better than all of them by a mile except Bama and Brandon Freaking Harris lost it when he could have run and set up the GW FG.
What does this have to do with the subject of this thread?
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So don’t act like this is some major hire you dumbass
You actually read anything I have posted and came up with this?
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This is a paycheck towards retirement for a buddy of Orgeron.
Are you making shite up?
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she wasn’t worth a shite as a QB and he isn’t going to be worth a shite as an OC.
In your opinion. Until he installs his offense there is no way to know. Unless you suffer from catastrophe syndrome and have to make shite up to be miserable about.
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Can’t challenge for the West your not worth a shite.
Where did LSU finish in the West this past season? Did they not beat the team who won the West? The same team the beat two #1 teams in the nation.
LSU should be much better this year with the D-line, LB's and the 30+ freshmen who played last season. If LSU can replace Clapp and not dip too much at the position the O-line should be better also.
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:17 am to SammyTiger
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He didn’t change the offense we just ran all over shitty teams.
So ???
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:25 am to Tiger Ree
Well, I, like most LSU fans, want to be able to score vs good teams too.
I know It doesn’t matter to you so long at O can best enough shitty teams on the schedule to stay hired, but I kinda worry about hiring a guy who scored 0 vs Bama.
And Tiger1998 pointed out that Cam Cameron had more yards and points vs a comperable defense (Wisconsin)
I know It doesn’t matter to you so long at O can best enough shitty teams on the schedule to stay hired, but I kinda worry about hiring a guy who scored 0 vs Bama.
And Tiger1998 pointed out that Cam Cameron had more yards and points vs a comperable defense (Wisconsin)
This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 10:29 am
Posted on 1/21/18 at 10:33 am to EvrybodysAllAmerican
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Coaches at this level spend as much or more time practicing their craft as any surgeon.
I know garbage men who spend 12-14 hours a day at their craft. They are not brain surgeons nor rocket scientists. Hint: neither are football coaches. Equating time spent as a coach with the level of brain power and skill needed to be a surgeon is ignorant.
ETA: perhaps not ignorant, but intellectually dishonest.
This post was edited on 1/21/18 at 10:34 am
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