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re: Spring baseball stats through 6 scrimmages

Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:20 am to
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:20 am to
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Milazdanado.


Yeah, I debated making a Maldonado reference

When your pitching staff is having great success and the team keeps winning, the hit and the walk your C gets in 11 PAs just don't seem to matter all that much

Now, leaving MOB and losing could be an altogether different story
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:22 am to
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It's gonna be cold as hell out there

Sat/Sun will be afternoon games, and it will be 55 and 66 degrees and sunny both days. That sounds like almost perfect weather to me.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:31 am to
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And you can’t make that excuse for guidry while not doing it for others or ignoring what Jones has done.


There is no excuse present in my post. The numbers are what they are. I’m just telling you how they read.
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:35 am to
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It's gonna be cold as hell out there


Might as well get the prepared for opening night
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:37 am to
You don’t even talk about Guidry. You talk about how good the staff is. You deflected. If you want to say the staff is ramping up and keeping good players down, you have to look at what good players aren’t breaking through. Guidry and Pearson are the only two. One is the Jake Fraley of this team where he never seems to hit well in the fall/spring but comes alive when the lights come on. The other hasn’t shown any of his promise yet. I can’t see how you “read” it as a result of a good pitching staff that he has zero hits and 10 Ks.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 9:55 am to
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You talk about how good the staff is. You deflected. If you want to say the staff is ramping up and keeping good players down, you have to look at what good players aren’t breaking through


I’m trying to understand what you think I’ve said in the past would come to make you think I am trying to make an excuse for him.


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yet. I can’t see how you “read” it as a result of a good pitching staff that he has zero hits and 10 Ks.


You did this shite with Gio last year. And even doubled down after a few games. You are not good at reading numbers & understanding how that profiles a player. You’d rather go off your emotion & eye test (which is complete crap).


Yea Guidry has K’d 53% of the time this spring.

He’s also drawn a walk 26% of the time

Neither of these are sustainable because of the tiny sample size but his walk rate over both sessions (+\- 100 plate appearances) is way above average despite the K’s. Whether it’s this year or next that is a strong predictor of future value as a hitter.
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 9:56 am
Posted by BayTiger13
Louisiana
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 10:09 am to
I agree with that. I think he will get it figured out. Just working out some mental stuff and approach.

After this weekend I will probably post final stats from the spring and then combine the fall stats and spring stats into 1 bigger sample size for fun.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 10:18 am to
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I’m trying to understand what you think I’ve said in the past would come to make you think I am trying to make an excuse for him.
What do your past posts have to do with you making excuses for him now?
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Neither of these are sustainable because of the tiny sample size but his walk rate over both sessions (+\- 100 plate appearances) is way above average despite the K’s. Whether it’s this year or next that is a strong predictor of future value as a hitter.
So you agree it has something to do with the hitter and not the pitching. Got it.
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 10:20 am
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 10:31 am to
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So you agree it has something to do with the hitter and not the pitching.


Huh. I think you were the only one that didn’t understand that originally
Posted by WigSplitta22
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 10:45 am to
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But he can definitely finish the season around 240.






No, no he can't and he wont
Posted by WigSplitta22
The Bottom
Member since Apr 2014
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 10:54 am to
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The best hitters still get out 70% of the time.



Ya don't say
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
68811 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 11:02 am to
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No, no he can't and he wont

I don't know why you, and others, think hitting .240 over 56 games is some unreachable goal for Milazzo.

Hal Hughs, in 3 years and 352 ABs at LSU, hit for a career average of .198. He hit .258 his senior season at Rice. Sure, quality of pitching was not what Milazzo will face in the SEC, but .240 isn't exactly a good BA either. That's just asking Milazzo to be bad instead of historically awful. Put it to you this way, for Milazzo to have hit .240 his only full season, he would have needed 13 more hits over the course of the season, or 1 more hit every 4 games he played. With college baseball having a fraction of the number of at bats you'd see in a MLB length season, it doesn't take a lot to dramatically raise or lower your batting average. Milazzo was hitting .227 before getting injured last season fwiw.
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 11:03 am
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 11:47 am to
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Milazzo was hitting .227 before getting injured last season fwiw.


Against a very weak schedule. Did not play in any SEC games.

A career .157 guy jumping to .240 would be a very large & unlikely jump.

He’s hit like .180 this offseason vs lsu pitching fwiw. It’s not like he has improved
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 11:58 am to
He has basically missed two seasons. He’s hitting 0.180 vs our staff this fall/spring. Our staff being one of the best in the nation. 240 isn’t some crazy number when you consider this years OOC is even easier than last years.
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 11:59 am
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 12:07 pm to
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240 isn’t some crazy number


It’s about as crazy as thinking a .290 hitter like Gio could suddenly hit .340 like you said last year.

There is nothing Milazzo has shown that says he can hit .240 over a season.

You’ve already crawfished on the .240 so I’m not even sure what you really believe
This post was edited on 2/7/23 at 12:09 pm
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 12:12 pm to
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It’s about as crazy as thinking a .290 hitter like Gio could suddenly hit .340 like you said last year.
He let me down. I’ve tried bumping that thread a few times to laugh at myself but it’s anchored. It was a bad one no doubt. You act like you’ve never missed on a player…
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You’ve already crawfished on the .240
You say this yet I haven’t shied away from it at all. I said he could hit it. I still say he could hit it. I also said he’s more likely to be in the lower 200 range. Not sure why you keep making that up.
Posted by Lester Earl
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Posted on 2/7/23 at 12:29 pm to
Everyone misses but it was the call out thread after like 20 ABs that was out of line. All this ties into understanding sample sizes & data, regression, and luck (you even mentioned BAPIP yesterday).

Look I hope he hits .240, but there is zero evidence he can do that. I wouldn’t bet on hope.
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86739 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 12:38 pm to
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it was the call out thread after like 20 ABs that was out of line.
No doubt. He started 8 for 19 so I took a shot… a bad one.
Posted by wahoocs
Lafayette, LA
Member since Nov 2004
23527 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 12:41 pm to
His chances of hitting .240 would have to include his career best production versus OOC opponents, because I'm with LE on what's gonna happen in the SEC

And I still think he will get the majority of the starts. It would be beneficial to DH for him when Skenes is pitching

Doubt we see it though
Posted by ell_13
Member since Apr 2013
86739 posts
Posted on 2/7/23 at 12:45 pm to
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It would be beneficial to DH for him when Skenes is pitching
No.
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