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re: Sports Illustrated gets it (this time at least)

Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:40 am to
Posted by NC_Tigah
Carolinas
Member since Sep 2003
124607 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:40 am to
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because he is an alum (he's not, he grew up in Texas and went to Rice)
Is all of that true?
That part is 100% true. Don't know about his daughter or business connections. I do know he and his team have hosed LSU with odd calls and odd noncalls at important points in many games.

I do know the officiating seems to favor Alabama over LSU regardless of who is coaching. I do know that Bama people are unbelievably concerned about the officiating for this game. They feel they've not gotten the same calls this year they normally do. I hope they're right, because the call disparity is usually significantly in their favor.

They also feel (correctly so) that they got jobbed on the Ole Miss pop pass where an OL was 4yds downfield as the pass was released.
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 11:41 am
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:41 am to
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Yet when a guy named Zac Ellis, who went to Tennessee, writes an OPINION piece, we aren't allowed to think his personal bias my influence his opinion?


You're right. He's probably just upset that Albert Means was sold to Alabama for more money than Tennessee offered.
Posted by LSU03
Tiger Mecca (aka Baton Rouge)
Member since Dec 2003
514 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:43 am to
This rule must have been changed since 2009, because it is a FACT that a Bama alumni was the replay official who completely screwed LSU on the OBVIOUS Patrick Peterson interception (it was even a catch by NFL rules) that gave Bama yet another undeserved win.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50534 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:50 am to
CFB is becoming too WWE like. This is another of many examples.

Glad I no longer pay for tickets. I will be entertained for free in front of my TV and will change the channel once the steel chair is thrown in to knock LSU out in Bama's favor. By steel chair I mean 8-10 calls that go Bama's way, per usual. LOL


Posted by dbbuilder79
Overton NV
Member since Dec 2010
4193 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:51 am to
Perfect game day sign
Posted by bamasgot13
Birmingham
Member since Feb 2010
13619 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:51 am to
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This rule must have been changed since 2009

Always been a rule that officials couldn't officiate games involving their alma maters, a coach that played for, or a coach they played on same team as.

However, they have increased the restrictions so officials can't officiate games involving their families alma maters (or current schools), schools they have financial interest or business interest with, etc.

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because it is a FACT that a Bama alumni was the replay official who completely screwed LSU on the OBVIOUS Patrick Peterson interception

Not a fact. Quite the contrary. Dick Burleson was that official and he is an alum of Georgia Tech. He had spoken at Bama events before, so maybe that's why you are thinking he had gone to school there (though he has spoken at events for almost every SEC university, too, not just Bama).

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OBVIOUS Patrick Peterson interception

I agree

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that gave Bama yet another undeserved win.

No. LSU would have needed a TD as you were down 6 at the time 21-15. You would have gotten the ball at the 31 yard line, meaning you would have needed 69 yards to get the TD. Your O on it's 4th quarter drives that game got 9, -8, and 8 yard on 3 possessions (that's 9 yards total in the quarter). LSU would have still lost the game but it would have been 21-15 instead of 24-15.
Posted by EZE Tiger Fan
Member since Jul 2004
50534 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 11:54 am to
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No. LSU would have needed a TD as you were down 6 at the time 21-15. You would have gotten the ball at the 31 yard line, meaning you would have needed 69 yards to get the TD. Your O on it's 4th quarter drives that game got 9, -8, and 8 yard on 3 possessions (that's 9 yards total in the quarter). LSU would have still lost the game but it would have been 21-15 instead of 24-15.


I always love situations like these.

How do we know this would have happened?

Hell, LSU may have settled for three that drive and made it 21-18. That may have been the final.

LSU may have scored a TD and won. You, nor does anyone else know a goddamn thing.

That's what makes the CFBWWE so much fun though!
Posted by caliegeaux
Member since Aug 2004
10260 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:46 pm to
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No. LSU would have needed a TD as you were down 6 at the time 21-15. You would have gotten the ball at the 31 yard line, meaning you would have needed 69 yards to get the TD. Your O on it's 4th quarter drives that game got 9, -8, and 8 yard on 3 possessions (that's 9 yards total in the quarter). LSU would have still lost the game but it would have been 21-15 instead of 24-15.


I really appreciate how you came here with facts about all other issues in this thread. It was nice to see your opinion/side with facts to dispute these myths inside the heads of LSU fans and Ritter. But then, THEN, you go on and say this as a FACT. lol who knows what happens then. maybe the INT creates some hype. maybe ridley breaks one for 35 on 1st down because of the momentun. maybe Lee throws a pick 6 on 1st down. Point being, no one knows what would have happened when we weren't given our rightfully earned chance.

eta: I think most LSU fans feel the referee bias stems from the SEC Hq being in your state. Our games at Auburn and at Alabama do seem to have some historically bad calls. And the Ritter mythh probably grew from there. Either way, good luck to another great game in the making Saturday.
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 12:49 pm
Posted by ffhouston
The Woodlands
Member since Sep 2007
3782 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:53 pm to
This is the one and only time you'll see me comment on a "but Bama is unfairly overrated"-type of thread, simply because:

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It's our turn to shut the Gumps down once and for all this season.


Win on Saturday, and all of this stuff goes away until next season. Simple as that.
Posted by nofear67
Houston
Member since Jan 2006
2285 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 12:55 pm to
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Bama to the sports media is the same thing as Obama to the liberal left leaning media.

Leave this shite on the political board dumb arse.
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
65523 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 1:11 pm to
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You are attempting to apply transitive property to college football. Doesn't work that way. For every example you can provide of Team A beat Team B and team B beat team C so Team A is better than Team C, there are an equal number of examples that show it doesn't apply - not just with wins/losses, but also margin of victory.

LSU beat Syracuse by 10. USF beat Syracuse by 21. Does that mean that USF is better than Syracuse? Florida beat UK by 5. Florida beat Tennessee by 1. By transitive property logic the UT/UK game should have been close. it was anything but close as UT killed UK.

MSU lost to LSU by 2. They lost to A&M by 13. Do you think that A&M is going to be favored over LSU? Nope. Oddities happen in college football. Sometimes a team loses a game they shouldn't lose (see USCw losing to Stanford when they were a 44 point favorite). Doesn't mean the team that lost is incapable of beating the same team or winning out.

Then can we look at it this way.....
Florida's one and only loss came to #2 LSU on the road
Alabama's one and only loss came to #18 Ole Miss at home

Florida is 1-1 against the CFP top 25, best win #18 Ole Miss
Alabama is 1-1 against the CFP top 25, best win #19 Texas A&M

Common Opponents: Ole Miss, Tennessee, Georgia
Florida is 3-0 against common opponents
Alabama is 2-1 against common opponents

The problem most people have with this committee, and did last year as well, is that they have different, and conflicting, criteria for ranking different schools where they did. If they want to use a set of criteria, they need to use the same set of criteria for everyone. What they are doing, while it doesn't matter right now, is setting what could be a very bad precedent for the final poll.
Posted by GeauxToBed
Covington, LA
Member since Mar 2015
6113 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 1:11 pm to
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Ritter has zero connection to Bama.

bullshite. Steve Shaw is a Bama alum.

Bama fans are awfully butthurt about Ritter's crew being denied the LSU game. I wonder why that could be...
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 1:13 pm
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 1:14 pm to
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How so? LSU fans like to say that Ritter is biased toward Bama because he is an alum (he's not, he grew up in Texas and went to Rice) or b/c his daughter goes to Bama (she doesn't), or b/c he has business partners who went to Bama (he doesn't. there are 5 officers in his company counting him and none went to Bama).

Yet when a guy named Zac Ellis, who went to Tennessee, writes an OPINION piece, we aren't allowed to think his personal bias my influence his opinion?


let's talk about the PP7 interception.. the replay official Burleson had very obvious ties to the university including being on the booster payroll for speaking engagements and writing Alabama football related books

it was fricking hilarious when his website vanished in true conspiracy style
This post was edited on 11/4/15 at 1:16 pm
Posted by tigerfoot
Alexandria
Member since Sep 2006
56654 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 1:29 pm to
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where Bama was ranked. As long as it was top 10 all they have to do is win out and they'll be in playoff.
the fact that this is true doesn't bother you? The fact that you are certain that a one loss Bama would get in over undefeated a and other one loss teams?

You are correct by the way. That is what is aggravating. LSU doesn't need to worry about it. But teams like TCU, OSU, Baylor, FSU, ND, Clemson won't get the one loss guarantee
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 1:44 pm to
"Bama is a beneficiary of the corrupt business of CFB. See my post on what the ranking and betting line mean.
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:19 pm to
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Sometimes a team loses a game they shouldn't lose
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Doesn't mean the team that lost is incapable of beating the same team or winning out.


bamasgot - that is a crock of shite!!!! You have records for a reason, if you are not going to look at records and just analyze football teams but what people perceive than there is no reason to have win/loss records at all!!!

The rest of your argument can literally be summed up as "if, ands & buts were candy & nuts then everyday would be Christmas" Basically what I am saying it is just excuses. You have records for a reason and their is simply a very good comparison here that YOU cannot escape. Since Bama and Florida will not meet unless they meet in the SEC championship game how do you determine "today" who is the better team. The one stand out metric is common opponent which is Ole Piss. You lost to Ole Piss at home and your vaunted defense gave up "43pts in doing so", Florida destroyed Ole Piss at home and their vaunted defense gave up only "10pts." UF is 7-1 an you are 7-1, both teams play in the SEC there is no freaking way in hell you should be ranked ahead of UF as of TODAY!!!

I am not saying that after this Saturday, or the following Saturday etc.... that you should not be ranked ahead of UF, that depends on what each team does after each Saturday. What I am saying is the committee was bias towards Bama plain and simple. And your whole argument is basically based on the eye-ball test which I think is a crock of shite. All that means is the use of biases in an argument, because what one person sees doesn't mean another person sees the same thing. What is constant right now is records, head2head and common opponents, it is too early to use eye-ball test with the schedules that are left. A lot of the issues will work themselves out like LSU/Bama this weekend etc... but Bama at 4 and UF at 10 is a crock of bias bullshite.

It is real simple if the roles were reversed and Florida lost to Ole Piss and let them score 43pts at home and you held Ole Piss to 10pts at home and won and let's say your only loss was to LSU "the number 2 team in the country" and you were ranked # 10 and they were ranked #4 "because of the EYEBALL TEST," WOULD YOU BE PISSED RIGHT NOW?

If you answer anything other than, Yes I would be pissed - I will say right now you would be a fricking liar!!! You and every other gump would literally be screaming bloody murder!!!

As of today the committee got that one wrong, you should not be ranked ahead of UF TODAY. Maybe on Sunday you should but as of today NO frickING WAY. It is biased bullshite plain and simple!

Posted by Strickland Propane
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2015
71 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 2:29 pm to
Bama is ranked so high because the committee will find any excuse they can to include them. They've done nothing this season to warrant a top four ranking. It's simply typical Bama dick riding as usual. We have to win Saturday and win by at least a touchdown. Winning by anything less will leave Bama in the top 6 and leave their championship window open. Tired of them not being held accountable for losing while others teams watch their championship dreams die with their first loss. Their most impressive win is against an overrated A&M but somehow they are better than Baylor, MSU, TCU, and Florida
Posted by Dudebro2
San Diego
Member since Dec 2011
8967 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 8:59 pm to
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Winning by anything less will leave Bama in the top 6 and leave their championship window open


When we beat them on Saturday there shot at making the Final 4 will be sealed unless it is total bedlam and everyone has at least one loss. As long as we take care of business Bama's chance of winning the Naty this year is done.
Posted by Canwoodtiger
Member since Oct 2015
3737 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 9:10 pm to
EZE - please don't feed the brain-washed Gump who believes his own BS. Its like talking to a 100 ft wall of rantardnation.
Posted by Mulat
Avalon Bch, FL
Member since Sep 2010
17517 posts
Posted on 11/4/15 at 9:54 pm to
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LSU has to win this one for everyone.




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