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re: Sporting News: Edward Jim Orgeron Jr. is the 15th best coach in America

Posted on 6/21/19 at 3:38 pm to
Posted by bencoleman
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 3:38 pm to
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better than Southeastern shutting us down



I thought LSU won that game 31 to 0

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 3:42 pm to
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thought LSU won that game 31 to 0 


We did. Hes just "special"
Posted by bencoleman
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 3:48 pm to
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We did. Hes just "special"



I knew that something had to be up. That explains a lot. It takes a lot of special to hold up an LSU win as an example of something bad.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 3:49 pm to
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I knew that something had to be up. That explains a lot. It takes a lot of special to hold up an LSU win as an example of something bad.


Roger is using several LSU wins as examples of why LSU's 2015 offense was bad.
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 3:55 pm to
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I thought LSU won that game 31 to 0

A whole 7 points scored in the second half, which came with 2:00 left in the game when the D forced a turnover inside the 20. A whopping 63 second half yards.

Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
31030 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 3:56 pm to
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How can you be data driven without considering results?? Its "partially" data driven.

If I had a final poll that had Auburn and MSU in the top ten; what would you think of it? Honest answer

It depends on what your methodology is. To over simplify it, Auburn and State played 6 and 5 teams respectively in the final S&P top 15. On the surface it isn’t inconceivable that they can be highly ranked despite their record. I personally had them lower, but it doesn’t invalidate the system. S&P isn’t a CFP resume ranking, though he is doing some work on that as well.

ETA: What is your 2019 top 10?
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 3:59 pm
Posted by Mr. Hangover
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2003
34925 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:01 pm to
Once again, the rant never lets me down... this is fricking sad




***ETA: hey Ben. Been thinking about you man. Was cutting grass this morning and for some reason you were on my mind. I hope all is well (given the circumstances)... I wish you the best bud
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 4:03 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
299716 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:02 pm to
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depends on what your methodology is




Do you think Auburn and MSU were top ten teams last year?

I mean, part of his methodology is how well a team is playing at a particular time and MSU lost their last game to Iowa.

So yes, any ranking that has both of these in the top ten is highly flawed.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
52225 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:04 pm to
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So yes, any ranking that has both of these in the top ten is highly flawed.


^^^
Opinion.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33963 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:13 pm to
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I thought LSU won that game 31 to 0



Alabama or Clemson would've won that game by 50 points.

This team under this coach has a pattern. They have a few good drives in the first 20 minutes of the game, then go into hibernation until either the depth of the team bails us out or we lose. We had two notable outliers last season, one positive (UGA) and one negative (Bama) but otherwise, that's the pattern.
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:16 pm to
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18th in the CFP poll


the irony of this dipshit's posting is that he probably doesn't even realize that the playoff committee is probably looking at advanced metrics since you know damn well they arent watching all the games


meaning theres a solid chance they are using BillC's stats lololololololol.
This post was edited on 6/22/19 at 2:09 am
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:17 pm to
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Carry on gentlemen.


I am wondering if we need to ask the website mods for emergency contact info for his next of kin in case he gets pwned into oblivion.

Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
31030 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:19 pm to
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Do you think Auburn and MSU were top ten teams last year?

I don’t have my final ratings available at the moment, but based on where I currently have them for 2019 I believe both were in the teens.

quote:

I mean, part of his methodology is how well a team is playing at a particular time and MSU lost their last game to Iowa.

They lost the last game to Iowa, but how did the game play out? His method weighs efficiency more than what he considers to be the randomness of turnovers and big plays. Did State beat Iowa on a snap to snap basis and lose a close game due to a couple of turnovers or big plays? If so, that may explain why their rating was, or wasn’t, significantly impacted by that game.
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So yes, any ranking that has both of these in the top ten is highly flawed.

What is your top 10?
This post was edited on 6/21/19 at 4:20 pm
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:19 pm to
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So you would never shite on an offense that only looked good vs teams that averaged 80th in total defense?


i.e. the 2016 offense
Posted by tandrews37
Member since Jun 2019
721 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:22 pm to
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It depends on what your methodology is. To over simplify it, Auburn and State played 6 and 5 teams respectively in the final S&P top 15. On the surface it isn’t inconceivable that they can be highly ranked despite their record.


its like the 8-4 2016 LSU team....most LSU fans consider them a disappointment, and they'd be right! because that 8-4 team still was a top 10 team according to S&P year end rankings.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:23 pm to
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Not by me gomer


Is Buckeye Jeaux one of your alters?

Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:29 pm to
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So you would never shite on an offense that only looked good vs teams that averaged 80th in total defense?


except youre touting an offense that let Southeastern shut them down for a huge portion of the game.

yes id rather have an offense that was good against bad defenses over an offense that was bad against bad defenses.
Posted by CaptainPanic
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Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:29 pm to
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What is your top 10?
Top 10’s are hard when your knowledge of college football only consists of LSU fantasies.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
48281 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:32 pm to
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thought LSU won that game 31 to 0 




classic cultist response

the offense can have negative totals yards and win a game.

do you follow the sport or just look for ways to defend O?
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 6/21/19 at 4:33 pm to
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Once again, the rant never lets me down... this is fricking sad




***ETA: hey Ben. Been thinking about you man. Was cutting grass this morning and for some reason you were on my mind. I hope all is well (given the circumstances)... I wish you the best bud




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