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Posted on 12/28/15 at 10:12 am to Ryan3232
If he were drafted 7th round and only offered 7th round money he would've sat out. He was already ready to do that when Dallas offered 3rd round money.
This post was edited on 12/28/15 at 10:13 am
Posted on 12/28/15 at 10:12 am to SmokePurpleLiveGold2
He is not even the biggest steal on his team. Tony Romo was undrafted. Now if recent history is just the last two years, then maybe.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 10:13 am to SmokePurpleLiveGold2
Yep. Good thing the Saints are so solid on the o-line, they didn't need him.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 10:14 am to CarrolltonTiger
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Doesn't that happen with every undrafted free agent?
I'd be shocked if every team tried to sign the same undated free agent. I not sure of that the case with Lael
Posted on 12/28/15 at 10:16 am to Jcorye1
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Yeah, I am convinced something was told to the teams to not draft him.
Yep. There had to be some kind of collusion. There's no way that not one single team would be willing to throw at least a 7th round pick at that talent over an issue that turned out to be nothing.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 10:23 am to High C
Didn't La'el's people tell the teams if he wasn't drafted the first day that he wasn't going to sign?
Posted on 12/28/15 at 10:39 am to Ryan3232
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A player that was supposed to be a 1st rounder shouldnt be classified as a steal imo.
It's still a steal regardless of why it was a steal.
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It should be classified as a frick up by all 30 teams for not even throwing a 7th round selection at him
eh, not really. I wouldn't have wasted a draft pick on him either with the circumstances surrounding him. It sucked for him, but it was understandable. And regardless, La'el being a UDFA gave him more leverage. He signed a fully guaranteed 1.65 million deal with dallas plus a 21k signing bonus. As a 7th round pick, the average signing bonus is 40k, and their contracts aren't guranteed
Posted on 12/28/15 at 10:41 am to CarrolltonTiger
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Doesn't that happen with every undrafted free agent?
UDFAs typically get around a $5k signing bonus and no guaranteed contract. La'el received basically the same deal a 2nd or 3rd round pick typically gets
Posted on 12/28/15 at 10:44 am to SmokePurpleLiveGold2
Biggest steal in recent NFL history is a contest between two LSU players. I'm sure you're familiar with the other nominee.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 10:52 am to Rex
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I'm sure you're familiar with the other nominee.
Tyrann Mathieu in the 3rd?
Posted on 12/28/15 at 11:34 am to lsufball19
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Tyrann Mathieu in the 3rd?
So many great players were drafted in the first few rounds it's hard to label Mathieu as the biggest steal. No doubt he would go in the first if you could re-draft though.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 11:50 am to CarrolltonTiger
quote:No, every undrafted player is not contacted by every team hoping to sign the undrafted player as a free agent. And not every undrafted player is graded as a 1st round pick. Several other players who were graded as 1st round picks had personal issues that caused them to drop in the draft, but none of them went completely undrafted. Most fell to the 2nd or 3rd rounds which still enabled them to sign contracts for multiples of what Collins received in compensation.
Doesn't that happen with every undrafted free agent?
If Collins were to file suit and the case go to trial, how would any NFL team employee explain their pre-draft conversations with Collins versus other players they offered undrafted free agent contracts? They could not honestly say they had the same level of interest. Can you imagine the same story being told by 32 people, that they were scared off by suspected character issues with Collins, and then many of them would have to explain why they were willing to take chances on other players with known character issues? I don't think the NFL would be willing to let the case go to trial.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 12:00 pm to Ryan3232
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player that was supposed to be a 1st rounder shouldnt be classified as a steal imo. It should be classified as a frick up by all 30 teams for not even throwing a 7th round selection at him
I think he and his agent let it be known that he wouldn't sign if he fell that low, knowing they could get more money and dictate the terms of his contract.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 12:07 pm to SmokePurpleLiveGold2
Saints really blew this one.He'll be an all pro while Saints fan break out the bags.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 12:07 pm to Jcorye1
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Yeah, I am convinced something was told to the teams to not draft him.
And you would be right. Next door neighbor is a position coach for Titans. Told me point blank league said no one could touch LC on draft night.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 12:11 pm to SmokePurpleLiveGold2
Depends on what you mean by "recent," because.... Kurt Warner.
Posted on 12/28/15 at 12:16 pm to logjamming
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I think he and his agent let it be known that he wouldn't sign if he fell that low, knowing they could get more money and dictate the terms of his contract.
This is easy for me to say as I sit here with cheeto crumbs on my fingers and my hand in my underwear, but call their freaking bluff. You have his rights for a year and honestly you probably have a better chance of negotiating with him than hitting on any other 7th round dart throw
Posted on 12/28/15 at 12:39 pm to Poodlebrain
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The NFL teams had to be acting in concert for Collins to go undrafted, but still wanted enough by all 32 teams to receive free agent offers. Dallas didn't get a steal so much as they were the beneficiary of collusion by the NFL. If I were Collins I would be suing the NFL for colluding to
Ridiculous.
Collins himself made a statement that ran on the ticker the whole draft , that if he wasn't drafted in first 2 rounds to not draft him or he wouldn't sign.
Short memories here
Posted on 12/28/15 at 1:03 pm to Violent Tally
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Saints really blew this one.He'll be an all pro while Saints fan break out the bags.
Have you even looked at the cowboys recently?
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