re: Spencer Ware not in the same class as Trent Richardson

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Consider the opponents

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I know he averaged more vs fla.
Look I am a huge p&g fan, but this type of argument makes us sound like bama fans arguing their schedule has been harder to this point.

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Ware is damn good, but he's in a different offense. LSU runs some unbelievably predictable plays (sometimes the same play 3x in a row - straight pitch anyone?).

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So are you saying bama isn't having the box stacked on them, or that Saban is just a better coach than miles.
If we were talking about different offenses then you would have a point vs. Oregon, but not vs. Bama. These two teams are mirror images of each other.
Please make it stop!

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false

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just telling you what i've seen. ware is much more likely to sidestep somebody with success whereas richardson just runs over or past defenders. richardson has the greater straight line speed whereas ware can really make people miss at times. again, it's splitting hairs because both are excellent at what they do. i think richardson is better but, ware is really, really good.

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Whatever Richardson is doing he is doing it for 2 more yards a carry than Ware! That is 33% more yardage per carry! That is the difference between 3rd and 2 and a first down.

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He did have 167 yds on 11 carries vs North Texas. In the other 5 games he's avg 5.4 yds a carry

Ware,Ford, and Blue >>>>>> Richardson et al.

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Ware,Ford, and Blue >>>>>> Richardson et al.

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I actually think Blue could turn out to be the best pro of the bunch excluding Trent. I see blue in the same mold as a riddley, Dominque Davis.

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So are you saying bama isn't having the box stacked on them, or that Saban is just a better coach than miles.
If we were talking about different offenses then you would have a point vs. Oregon, but not vs. Bama. These two teams are mirror images of each other.
Please make it stop!

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Dude - please watch a Bama game and get back to me. I wasn't saying anything about Saban or Les other than that Les (or his coordinator) runs the same plays over and over (sometimes 3x in a row) and Bama mixes up their plays more. Please see Trent Richardson lined up in the Wildcat after the game was obviously over against Florida (stupid to me for Saban to do that). TOTAL difference in how we were playing once we had it sort of wrapped up against Florida.

Bama does get the box stacked sometimes, but they run different types of run plays a good bit of the time. Go watch a few games, it might help you have a decent opinion.

If Danielson wasn't born in Gainsville, he must have been conceived there. He is obviously SEC East bias. There are times when I just want to pull him through the t.v. screen and choke him.

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According to the statistics, Richardson is also more prolific as a receiver by a pretty good margin. Have not really watched him block, but I can't imagine he is defective in that area, either. And he certainly runs with plenty of power.

I would only add that LeSean McCoy is NOT in the same class as AP. That they are both very productive NFL running backs (lowest common denominator) is not dispositive. AP is a future first-ballot HOFer. McCoy will probably go to a couple of Pro Bowls and that is it.

So even though they are both great, AP is in a class above. Same with TR and Ware. Don't know why it is so painful to admit this.

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not painful to admit.

i think you misunderstood the point. look at production of mccoy and peterson. while peterson is the better of the two, it really doesn't show up in w's or on field production. the bottom line, they are both good productive backs for their team.

so what if richardson is a better back? does it make lsu or bama worse or better? i think not. it's like saying who's better between mark ingram and richardson, both are equally productive. the team doesn't drop off with either.