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re: Spencer Ware has one of the worst avg Ypc in the Sec

Posted on 10/16/11 at 11:54 pm to
Posted by lsu xman
Member since Oct 2006
16405 posts
Posted on 10/16/11 at 11:54 pm to
this is a list of his runs for the game:

1st half
16,0,1,-3,3,1,0,0,11,2,

2nd half
0,0,3,1(TD),11,3,12,-1,3,10,2,3

all this about Ware having the best hands and can throw the ball is a moot point. Ware only has 7 receptions in 7 games.
This post was edited on 10/16/11 at 11:54 pm
Posted by PiscesTiger
Concrete, WA
Member since Feb 2004
53696 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 12:03 am to
4 ypc average against SEC and OOC top ten teams that put 8 in the box and dare LSU to pass? I'm impressed. Why ya think Ware gets the ball in those situations.

Ware is the most violent runner we've had, other than Hester, since Kendall Cleveland.

Glad we have him.
Posted by tigersownall
Thibodaux
Member since Sep 2011
16228 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 12:11 am to
I can't seem to find it, but I would love to see his yards after contact avg. Every time this guy has the ball he sheds tacklers like he just got out a Vaseline shower.
Posted by TygerCrzy
Member since Oct 2011
132 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 12:28 am to
The offensive staff is hell bent on setting up the play action with little to no creativity. The same running play over and over, most of the time with no gain. Ford very rarely goes for a no gain. I can't stand it some times.

At least we have figured put how to get lee to execute a bubble screen properly
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282189 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 12:31 am to
quote:

The offensive staff is hell bent on setting up the play action with little to no creativity. The same running play over and over, most of the time with no gain. Ford very rarely goes for a no gain. I can't stand it some times.


Ford is deadly on the edge, but the staff is hellbent on pounding the middle. Ware doesn't have much of a chance under the present conditions and 4 ypc is impressive considering everyone from the popcorn vender to some infant crying in the corner knows what is about to happen.
Posted by TheSexecutioner
Member since Mar 2011
5264 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 12:35 am to
quote:

There is only one RB in the SEC that I would rather have over Ware. Ware is special. He is running into a brick wall most of the time since the defenses know LSU will run the ball.


Richardson or Lattimore? Either way, you are a homer.
Posted by bulldog95
North Louisiana
Member since Jan 2011
21039 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 12:55 am to
too bad lattimore is out for the rest of the year and richardson will be NFL bound after this year.

ware of sure.
Posted by Dubaitiger
Abu Dhabi, UAE
Member since Nov 2005
5163 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 3:16 am to
He is running into a 8-9 man front, we are so predictable even when they stack the box, we will not audible and run up the gut. I would say not many others would have a better avg than that considering.
Posted by Geaux2002
Member since Jun 2011
3561 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 3:49 am to
Ware is a very good running back, but doesn't have the greatest vision. It's good, don't get me wrong, but Ford's is significantly better.

One thing I questioned with Richardson earlier this season was his vision, but he's proven over the last 3 or 4 games to be good at it.

Ware's biggest issue is he trusts the play entirely too much and will run into his OL just for that reason. I honestly think that is one thing Les loves about him, and loved about Hester and Scott as well. They followed directions, didn't deviate/get creative, and ground out yards.

Ford, on the other hand, is more like Keiland was. More creative, would see the play be shut down and change it up (cut back the other way/bounce it to the outside/etc) and I honestly think Les hates that. It's just not his style.

Because of that, you have very good backs like Ware having lower ypc. This is in addition to lack of creative and over-conservative playcalling.

It's worked so far for this team, so can't really complain, but LSU has run the ball more than twice the number of times they've attempted a pass this season. Teams are playing on that.
Posted by SuperD AP
Member since Feb 2008
1293 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 4:10 am to
quote:

Ware runs lots of times early. Sets them up for the 3/4th quarter.
Besides, he blocks the best, can catch and even throw!.


This. Ware can do it all and that to me is what makes him the #1 back on the team. Also, does anyone know what he averages after first contact. So many times this year you see him truck defenders. He was plowing LBer's against Tenn.
Posted by tiger chaser
Birmingham Ala
Member since Feb 2008
7662 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 6:52 am to
Then DON'T LOOK AT THE DAMN STATS...stats DO NOT TELL THE WHOLE STORY...
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
29477 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 6:56 am to
quote:

Teams are playing on that.

Which is why our passing game has been so efficient and effective, and the running game has still been solid.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 7:06 am to
quote:

The offensive staff is hell bent on setting up the play action with little to no creativity. The same running play over and over, most of the time with no gain.


Yea, you'd think they would mix it up a little given how ineffective this strategy has been and how much trouble they've had putting teams away...
Posted by LadyRPTiger
River Parishes
Member since Aug 2011
621 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 7:53 am to
quote:

This is one reason I hate looking at stats. While thiS stat is true, you can't put a value on his toughness and what he has brought to the table. Kid is running like he wants to hurt someone.


Yep, so true. His stats are not an indication of what he does on the field for LSU
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 7:58 am to
quote:

Honestly, most of my ULL posts are just setting bait for fun.



admitted trolling. do like.
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
32738 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 8:59 am to
quote:

Stats are for use in arguments by losers who never played ball.

Stats can't measure heart, determination, and toughness.
Posted by LSU2NO
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2007
1942 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 9:30 am to
When we have a dominate Time of Possession, then I am happy with the bruising, power running that LSU employs. Also, because of our ToP, we have low passing yards. Guess what? I'll take that any day. We even have incorporated a 2-quarterback system rather well.

Now Alabama will be much more difficult, but we have been building up for this game personnel-wise. Remember we are also going to pose problems for Alabama.
This post was edited on 10/17/11 at 9:35 am
Posted by LATeeJay
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2010
276 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 11:29 am to
Has anyone even considered the fact that Ware is in his FIRST year as a running back? He played qb in high school. I'd say he's doing a Damn strong job considering Ford played rb in high school and has 4 more years experience seeing the play develop as he runs and setting up his blockers. Cut the guy some slack. He's a workhorse. Let's be glad he's on our team. I wouldn't want to try to tackle him. Would you ?
Posted by Random LSU Hero
2014 NFL Survivor Champion (17-0)
Member since Aug 2011
9500 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 11:33 am to
quote:

Stats are for use in arguments by losers who never played ball.


Says...
Posted by Teacher
Member since Sep 2006
3060 posts
Posted on 10/17/11 at 11:35 am to
Ware = work horse, smash mouth.
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