re: Specifics of McMahon hate

Give him more NIL to get top players. Hes a good coach

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McMahon was given a fresh start by the fans

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There was a contingent of fans that hated him from day because they were mad Wade was fired. Jesus himself could Coach and LSU team and there would be some fans that hated the hire

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Bailey, AT BEST his 5th highest paid player, got $450k. McMahon had more of an NIL budget than we've been led to believe, and further proof of how much he spent is in his top 15 recruiting classes he's brought in.

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He probably has what they say or close to it. Not including the automatic, NIL deals that come with being an LSU player such as the NILSU store, certain teams deals they get a small cut of. An LSU starter on defense was in an airport oddly enough up here in D.C. and said only the absolute stars make real money from that, now it may be different for basketball.

If I am not mistaken, on a per annum basis Dji because of this one year is 3rd on the team. So and I will make another post that I have done twice before on the state of the program and go into minute detail on some things that are glaring some well with CMM control, others may not be. So I am of the opinion that we should cut ties now with McMahon as in next loss let him a great fresh start. With the way CBB it does behoove him and with his buyout he is gonna be okay even if he is the head assistant at Clemson or Georgia Tech if he went that route. I really really enjoy not only the way CMM teaches basketball, you can visibly see why when he gets guys for 3-4 years how they change so much for the better. For people that have never been to a real practice only got to do it once and there still were over 15 non current team/staff members. People would be surprised how similar Wade, McMahon, and Brady are in practice. I think that is a big reason why Brady likes both so much you can tell. I said this maybe above or in another thread. I have known Matt and who he is for 11 years now, not involved in basketball, in any level other than the Special Olympics lol. But I do not understand how in 3 now about to be 4 years he changed it at the end of every year, and this goes to the budget thing which is weird that those in the know are trotting this out that it’s a budget thing and that’s the end all be all.

Year 1: Bring in a new staff obviously. Bring in a HS recruiting class ranked 17th nationally, probably around 30 or 31 when you factor in the size of the class. Decent class headlined in terms of talent and production at LSU by Reed a consensus Top-70 recruit that when CMM was able to get him I said wow he might be a better high school recruiter than I even imagined. Tyrell Ward has stepped away from the team because of mental health stuff, wasn’t drugs or grades, actual he wanted to focus on getting right and good on him. So the two headliners from that class are both out this year. Okay not necessarily “on” CMM. But the other two in Cornelius Williams and Shawn Phillips were potential guys. That also fans and CMM hoped stick and make it and by year 3 you have solid contributors that can give you 20mpg. Both transferred out. Your transfer class had some talent of course from Murray State, but in Fountain from MS State, and Cam Hayes from NC State you spend a lot of money and take up minutes in bad years for one and two year rentals. Neither were above average SEC players. So you are paying transfers a lot and when they don’t produce or gel it can quickly lead to other problems which is evident in the next two classes.
So this is what I cannot understand, basically we are going to spend a little bit more money, and have basically have no freshman class other than Mike Williams (As Chest redshirted). The rest are transfers, and I don’t nitpick guys for their service to LSU. But the transfer class is again starters primarily at Mid Majors that are jumping up. Fine let’s see how it pans out. Damion Collin’s who is probably the biggest steal in terms of NIL came from Kentucky while he wasn’t a starter that was a real player that you knew in SEC players you could weather 3 or 4 game losing streaks and have quality depth.

For the 2024 Class high school it is an absolute haul on paper and when you factor in Corey Chest being in this class as his first time playing. You have 4 rather raw compared to their rankings but are positioned players and all have shown flashes especially Chest and Vyctorious Miller. Again that is fine for another year, it’s your first real solo advanced relationship building with recruits and CMM and the Tigers are have a Top 50 class so you know probably won’t get the Wade Top or Top 10 classes. But I. understand you are getting them cheaper than a 4th year and what CMM has historically done best saying okay we will develop them, and in 3 years he could have stopped trying to fill holes and just recruit 2 or 3 that’s what he prefers. But you then fill in the gaps from year one and every year we are going to transfer in a Pg or two lol from a mid major. And you overpaid all 3, because CMM struck out same money from some higher end transfers they wanted to go elsewhere even if the money was negligible or the same, that’s called recruiting. Look when it’s the same money and everybody knows what the number is, benefit to LSU especially in basketball it created a definite exchange. But on the flip side after not getting who they initially wanted. I am not saying Sears, Bailey, or Carter would say it’s only for the money. Market shrunk and CMM had to pay them or so he felt like, versus what other teams wanted to pay. I disagree with that route. We will now be on our 4th recruiting class in a row besides Givens, where the backcourt is being replaced and it costs more per year. If your strength IMO is developing talent, but if you look up and down the SEC transfer classes we are literally the only one out of 16 that recruits a majority of our transfers from mid majors. The rest are getting either guys like Collins or once a year getting a starter that wants money, or a fresh scene from another power conference. This class as some ont he radio said we are gonna pay a lot in NIL, for a transfer class. Great what happens when these really good either starters or stars, get the same amount of money at another Power team. So far limited or no basketball real success. Zero players drafted, coach on a hot seat, and a real problem with leadership. The 2025 class has 3 HS Recruits all between Top 50-100 as Wade went big game happening and usually every class got one star which was smart or the centerpiece, then positionless players and figure it out. But be tough even to the point of obnoxious some call it thuggish, athletic as hell, and work hard and in the way they just fight somebody if things don’t go their way, which is just two different styles of players. But going into year 4, you have the 2024 class, Reed, Chest, Collins and maybe Ward. Three losing seasons in the SEC and trending downward. And now to get the higher profiled transfers you need to save your job you need an extra $2 million. See that doesn’t make sense because they aren’t coming to LSU right now to do what. Look at Adam Miller All-Conference Big Ten top 5 transfer when Wade got him on the market. Yes he was hurt, but it just never worked under CMM. I could have and may others posters built a more talent team for $800k or 900k by year 3. Again CMM in my opinion will be a very good head coach and will lead another team to a Sweet 16. But in looking at the roster turnover especially if V. Miller, Chest, and or Reed leave you are in a world of trouble.

It is not all CMM fault.....he has a limited NIL credit card and he can only bring in a certain level talent.....
I give CMM another 2 years.

This is what you get with those types. Every other team on earth is judged by these same people according to the same rankings they dismiss when applied to McMahon. As a matter of fact every universal standard in every comparative category has been deemed worthless but only when applied to McMahon. It’s incredible the mental gymnastics and double standards being used to excuse everything with this guy. There’s never been anything like it in LSU fandom.

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It is not all CMM fault.....he has a limited NIL credit card and he can only bring in a certain level talent.....

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He cannot be relieved of responsibility for the lack of NIL funding. One could argue the head coach, especially at a school like LSU that is not a blue blood, has to be the main fund raiser.

He really is, just a make a wish nice guy coach.

I know for sure pirate king hates JJ and BK. I’m sure the sec baseball being the best conference wasn’t an excuse for only making a regional last year.

Fake news

He’s a Johnny Jones sycophant who’s always hated Wade and hated any fan who liked the fact that Wade won. You’ll see this type of non LSU fan for 99% of the mcmen.