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re: SOS manipulation
Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:36 am to Nutriaitch
Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:36 am to Nutriaitch
quote:
you don’t think playing one of the worst FCS teams in the country should hurt your SOS? seriously?
When you are talking about the bottom 2-3 opponents on a top 5 team’s schedule - no, it shouldn’t matter. The fact is that regardless of whether the worst opponent on the schedule is a bad FCS team or a bad FBS team, LSU (and any other top 5 team) has a 95+% win probability. NOBODY in the top ten plays 12 opponents that could legitimately beat them.
You’re making the Clemson argument. Vanderbilt, Arkansas, Ole Miss, and Tennessee are terrible. If the bottom four teams in the ACC were better, would you say the ACC is a stronger conference? Of course not. Even if Georgia Tech is better than Arkansas, neither pose any threat to Clemson. On the other hand, LSU, Alabama, UGA, UF, and Auburn are all a legitimate threat to beat anyone they play. It makes much more sense to focus on the BEST opponents, not the worst.
That’s why there are multiple metrics for strength of schedule, all of which weight opponents differently.
And the poster I replied to has a point. If we are going to pay a bad team to come to BR, I’d rather it be a bad team from Louisiana.
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Posted on 11/6/19 at 9:40 am to ChEgrad
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A second SEC team will not get in the playoff in the future unless a major conference champion has two losses. The other conferences will protest mightily that their champions are being bypassed and complain of SEC bias. And rightly so.
I disagree. A 1-loss SEC division team with that sole loss coming in a close SECCG. Imagine Tennessee going undefeated this year, with their SEC + OOC schedule (BYU, GT, Bama, UGA) then a close loss to undefeated SEC West LSU would be a strong enough resume.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 10:05 am to nicholastiger
Why not... bama would.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 10:12 am to SpencerRob
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but Ohio State is benefiting tremendously from not having an FCS team in their calculation.
Tremendously huh?
Ohio St is ranked #1 this week, and LSU is ranked #2. If LSU beats Bama, you can bet your arse off that next week LSU will be ranked #1, ahead of Ohio St.
So please explain to me how Ohio St is TREMENDOUSLY benefiting?
Some of you people can't help but to over react to every single moment. Every ranking, every first down, every touch down. And seem incapable of looking at the bigger picture.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 10:15 am to DLauw
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They’re Louisiana schools and should be receiving the paydays instead of out of state schools.
It's not LSU's responsibility to prop up in-state schools athletic departments by playing them. Hell, we have too many 4 year schools in Louisiana already. These other schools are a waste of resources that should be going to LSU.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 10:20 am to 3rdRowTailgater
So you’re fine with “propping up” out of state rent-a-win teams’ athletic departments? My point is- if we’re paying, why aren’t we paying in state schools?
Posted on 11/6/19 at 10:22 am to DLauw
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So you’re fine with “propping up” out of state rent-a-win teams’ athletic departments? My point is- if we’re paying, why aren’t we paying in state schools?
We shouldn't be playing any FCS teams IMO and while I'm fine with Tech, Tulane, ULL, ULM being on the schedule I definitely don't think we need a Louisiana team every year.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 10:31 am to 3rdRowTailgater
Playing other La teams would fill the stands better than some of this other weak out of state bullshite. Added bonus would be that ALL the tailgates would have good food
ETA: maybe not Tech and ULM for good food
ETA: maybe not Tech and ULM for good food
This post was edited on 11/6/19 at 10:35 am
Posted on 11/6/19 at 10:39 am to nicholastiger
quote:
It's why LSU does not need to schedule Southern and Grambling in football
Posted on 11/6/19 at 11:16 am to lostinbr
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Tech, ULL, ULM, and Tulane
i can get on board with this... keep the money instate...
Posted on 11/6/19 at 12:00 pm to SpencerRob
LSU SCHEDULE
Team. AP Ranking
Florida. 10
Auburn 12
Texas. 28
Utah St. 67
Ga Southern 68
Miss. State. 70
Vandy 108
NW State. BAD FCS TEAM
OHIO STATE SCHEDULE
Team AP Ranking
FAU. 45
Cincinnati 18
Indiana 27
Miami-Ohio. 95
Nebraska 84
Michigan State. 48
Northwestern 113
Wisconsin 14
OHIO ST. has played 5 teams in the Top 50 and LSU has played 3 teams in the Top 50.
I am ok with being #2 at this point. Beat Bama at BDS and we are #1 across ALL the rankings.
Team. AP Ranking
Florida. 10
Auburn 12
Texas. 28
Utah St. 67
Ga Southern 68
Miss. State. 70
Vandy 108
NW State. BAD FCS TEAM
OHIO STATE SCHEDULE
Team AP Ranking
FAU. 45
Cincinnati 18
Indiana 27
Miami-Ohio. 95
Nebraska 84
Michigan State. 48
Northwestern 113
Wisconsin 14
OHIO ST. has played 5 teams in the Top 50 and LSU has played 3 teams in the Top 50.
I am ok with being #2 at this point. Beat Bama at BDS and we are #1 across ALL the rankings.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 12:08 pm to TigerFan55555
I agree LSU should be scheduling schools like Tulane or Tech instead of northwestern st or McNeese. Zero reason to play FCS schools.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 12:35 pm to DLauw
quote:
They’re Louisiana schools and should be receiving the paydays instead of out of state schools.
This is a fallacious concept. It's not like these schools don't get scheduled if we don't schedule them.
Money is highly fungible, what is the difference if a Louisiana schools get paid by a Florida, Kentucky, Georgia or any other school in a rent a win instead of by LSU?
If we pay Arkansas State and Arkansas pays McNeese, what is the difference than LSU paying McNeese and Arkansas paying State. The visitors get paid and the hosts pay the money.
Unless you are suggesting LSU pays more than market value for crap schools.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 12:40 pm to SpencerRob
The bickering and debate about SOS based on what the committee said last night is wasted energy. If we take care of business this weekend, we are as solid a #1 as ever.
Posted on 11/6/19 at 12:42 pm to Cubssfan
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OHIO ST. has played 5 teams in the Top 50 and LSU has played 3 teams in the Top 50.
So reward them for playing mediocre teams?
Posted on 11/6/19 at 12:46 pm to extremetigerfanatic
this methodology equates Cincinnati with a team like auburn
It’s retarded. Auburn would fricking kill the bearcats and OSU is getting just as much credit as an auburn win
It’s retarded. Auburn would fricking kill the bearcats and OSU is getting just as much credit as an auburn win
Posted on 11/6/19 at 12:48 pm to extremetigerfanatic
They are already getting credit for that because cincy is overrated in the polls right now. SOS is supposed to balance that. Not tip towards it. It’s the entire purpose of having sos as part of the equation
This post was edited on 11/6/19 at 12:49 pm
Posted on 11/6/19 at 1:11 pm to CarrolltonTiger
quote:Not at all, I have no idea what LSU pays these schools or how much they get paid from others.
Unless you are suggesting LSU pays more than market value for crap schools.
Traveling, keeping people in stadium seats and great gameday atmosphere here at home (Louisiana) is what I would like to see for these other schools. A lot of these Louisiana kids dreamed of playing at LSU. They weren't good enough to wear the purple and gold but would love to get that chance to play in Death Valley across from the Tigers.
It's all just sentiment on my part. I would like to revive the LSU/Tulane in-state rivalry instead of this LSU/ATM one that I feel like the SEC is trying to force on us.
Purely hypothetical and off-topic - How do you think Ogeron would have handled the game if McNeese had been on our schedule this year?
Posted on 11/6/19 at 2:39 pm to lostinbr
quote:
When you are talking about the bottom 2-3 opponents on a top 5 team’s schedule - no, it shouldn’t matter.
we’re going to have to agree to disagree then.
because you should abso-freaking-lutely get slammed for playing a team in the very bottom tier of the division below you.
Northwestern State is a very shitty FCS squad that hasn’t had a winning season in over a decade.
They’ve had multiple 10 loss seasons (on pace for another) in that stretch.
They got their shite pushed in by a Div II school.
the absolute worst team on tOSU’s schedule would absolutely ape-frick Northwestern State.
the fact that we can beat Rutgers and Northwestern State doesn’t make those two teams even remotely close to equal.
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