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re: Sorry guys... get off Miles' arse, this ain't on him.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:05 am to Cap Crunch
Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:05 am to Cap Crunch
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But I thought Miles is a great recruiter? Go check out the recruiting class he's putting together right now
Yea but is he gonna hang onto some of these guys now????
Any recruit outside the state who is not a diehard LSU follower from birth, might reconsider their position. If I want to win a NC and get plenty of NFL love, I choose Bama right now....why would I choose LSU?????
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Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:06 am to The Egg
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Promie, we've basically blamed the players for Ole Miss, and now Bama, so does the coaching staff deserve the blame for any losses...like ever?
I'm not quite as hardcore on miles as others, but it sounds as if people are absolving the staff of everything.
are our players getting any better? are they still making the same mistakes as they were in week 1?
I don't like Stud and I think if Chavis doesn't improve next year, I think he needs to hang it up.
Like Isaid and preached so much though. College football is peaks and valleys. It is what it is. I can NOT blame a coach for the lack of simple execution on the field (turnovers). The coaches job is to put players in spots to manage the game. Yes, Miles has fricked up at times, but there are absolutely NO perfect coach in the history of the game.
The Ole Miss and Alabama games were dictated by turnovers. The Ole Miss game, Mettenberger threw terrible balls most of the game. I thought the game plan vs. Alabama was excellent and Miles didn't do anything to lose it.
The OL sucked my balls. Stud's done, IMO. Chavis is toeing the line.
I just can't grasp the logic behind it's the coach's fault for a player's failure. Yet, whenever a player does has success, you never hear that the coach was behind that success.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:06 am to HollierThanThou
that opening TD may have made it look closer, but honestly in that 2nd half Bama just totally had their way with us. We would have needed a substantial lead and tried to hold on for dear life. Bama was just far superior on both sides of the football.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:07 am to Prominentwon
Prom, seriously do you place any responsibility on Les whatsoever?
Your responses are always along the lines of:
What is Miles supposed to do to get his players up for a game when they don't want to?
What is Miles supposed to do to keep his players from quitting?
What is Miles supposed to do to keep a RB from fumbling?
What is Miles supposed to do to keep his QB from making a bad decision?
What is Miles supposed to do to make his WRs catch better?
What is Miles supposed to do with our DBs' blown coverages?
What is Miles supposed to do when our OL gets dominated?
What is Miles supposed to do when our DL and LBs don't make the tackles?
I mean is his Get Out Of Jail card good for everything?
Your responses are always along the lines of:
What is Miles supposed to do to get his players up for a game when they don't want to?
What is Miles supposed to do to keep his players from quitting?
What is Miles supposed to do to keep a RB from fumbling?
What is Miles supposed to do to keep his QB from making a bad decision?
What is Miles supposed to do to make his WRs catch better?
What is Miles supposed to do with our DBs' blown coverages?
What is Miles supposed to do when our OL gets dominated?
What is Miles supposed to do when our DL and LBs don't make the tackles?
I mean is his Get Out Of Jail card good for everything?
This post was edited on 11/11/13 at 10:08 am
Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:07 am to PurpleAndGold86
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The HC isn't calling the plays you ignorant shite.
The FB dive is Les's play.
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We weren't on the 1.
My apologies. The 4.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:08 am to Choctaw
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JC has been running in goalline TDs for awhile now.
He's also been stuffed a lot. Just because it has worked a time or two does not mean it is our best option. It makes my point, there are times that we do stupid stuff and get away with it because we were uber-talented. That time is gone, and Miles and Chavis are having to outcoach other teams and it ain't happening.
Choctaw, I know you watch all of the games, tell me how confident you are with A&M coming to town? So it's just a down year? Are we going to be better next year? What is our offense going to do without Mett, Beckham, Landry, and Hill?
Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:08 am to jonboy
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The FB dive is Les's play.
and?
Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:09 am to The Egg
The ole miss loss is on the coaches, well at least partially
The offensive game plan was awful and the defense wasn't ready
The offensive game plan was awful and the defense wasn't ready
Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:09 am to Choctaw
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And yes, that is Miles' play, not Cam Cameron's. Miles started running the fullback belly with Copeland last year before Cam was even here.
miles threw slants and ins before cameron. is every slant and in a miles play?
Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:09 am to Godfather1
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FTR, right now as it stands, I think Auburn is the only team in the country with a real shot at taking Bama. FSU could hang with them for a half, maybe 3 quarters before folding.
I think FSU is the better team. Honestly, IMO this is the weakest Bama team since 2010 and it's benefiting from a weak SEC. Bama was also fortunate to avoid UGA early on, bc Bama was esp vulnerable then.
Consider how ordinary LSU has looked all year. A loss to OM and atrocious defense. Yet after 2 goofy fumbles and a cheap PI flag all in the first half, at home, Bama was still getting beat for 3 quarters. FSU would've drilled LSU from the start.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:10 am to Prominentwon
quote:i don't agree with that. when our players do have successes, the coaches are definitely credited with it. Why do you think so many people want Cooper back? When our LB was playing up to snuff, Chavis was getting all the credit for coaching them up. Haley was being called the best DL coach in america when his lines had success. So on and so forth.
Yet, whenever a player does has success, you never hear that the coach was behind that success.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:10 am to Prominentwon
With that said, the offense and the defense are not at the same levels. I believe that when both the offense and the defense are on the same levels, you make a run at titles.
Attrition happens. Jr's leaving happens.
I don't care what ANYONE says, you don't lose that much on defense and expect to be great. Alabama is capable of doing it because Saban has a master, fantastic defensive scheme. He's always been known for that.
IMO, the defense will improve next year, but with the lack of experience with Jennings and Beckham and Landry understandably leaving, the offense is going to have to go through growing pains.
The year after that, the defense and offense SHOULD be at the same level and if they're not, then I'll start to get on your bandwagon.
Attrition happens. Jr's leaving happens.
I don't care what ANYONE says, you don't lose that much on defense and expect to be great. Alabama is capable of doing it because Saban has a master, fantastic defensive scheme. He's always been known for that.
IMO, the defense will improve next year, but with the lack of experience with Jennings and Beckham and Landry understandably leaving, the offense is going to have to go through growing pains.
The year after that, the defense and offense SHOULD be at the same level and if they're not, then I'll start to get on your bandwagon.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:10 am to Choupique19
I'm fine with the FB dive call.
I'm not fine with turning to magee so much and the return of the fricking toss dive
I'm not fine with turning to magee so much and the return of the fricking toss dive
Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:10 am to Prominentwon
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I just can't grasp the logic behind it's the coach's fault for a player's failure.
Because the coach is responsible for preparation, game planning & execution.
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Yet, whenever a player does has success, you never hear that the coach was behind that success.
Yes you do. I'd say everyone has lauded Cam's work with Mett & i'd say Henry has done a great job with the receivers.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:11 am to BilJ
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I'm not fine with turning to magee so much
Magee was running better than Hill
Hill was trying to bounce everything outside too much
Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:11 am to Choupique19
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Choctaw, I know you watch all of the games, tell me how confident you are with A&M coming to town?
im nervous that are defense may not be able to hold them enough for us to outscore them. i'd say i'm about 70/30 on that game
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Are we going to be better next year? What is our offense going to do without Mett, Beckham, Landry, and Hill?
i don't know.....guess we'll have to wait and see.
Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:12 am to jonboy
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Yes you do. I'd say everyone has lauded Cam's work with Mett & i'd say Henry has done a great job with the receivers.
exactly anything bad = Miles
anything good = coordinators
Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:13 am to Prominentwon
quote:agreed, but to show no progression is a red flag, no?
I don't care what ANYONE says, you don't lose that much on defense and expect to be great.
there are tons of red flags going up right now...this defense is still making the same mistakes as they were in week 1. it's the maddening part.
at that point, is it the players not listening to coaches? or is it the coaching not teaching the players?
Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:14 am to jonboy
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Because the coach is responsible for preparation, game planning & execution.
what's the players responsibilites?
..and sorry....but the players are responsible for execution
This post was edited on 11/11/13 at 10:15 am
Posted on 11/11/13 at 10:16 am to Choctaw
Back on this
The LSU defense played great...for the first quarter. They held Bama to two punts and a short field field goal. After that:
5 possession, 5 td drives. None came from a short field.
Just like the Ole Miss game, after the first quarter our defense was swiss cheese. Only difference is that Bama didn't cough the ball up twice like Ole Miss did.
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3 plays cost LSU this game
The LSU defense played great...for the first quarter. They held Bama to two punts and a short field field goal. After that:
5 possession, 5 td drives. None came from a short field.
Just like the Ole Miss game, after the first quarter our defense was swiss cheese. Only difference is that Bama didn't cough the ball up twice like Ole Miss did.
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