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re: Someone who knows football technique explain why our line is so soft?

Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:16 am to
Posted by richbad
Louisiana
Member since Nov 2008
1250 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:16 am to
First thing getting rid of Tommy Moffitt and second Brad Davis, good recruiter but bad coach.
Posted by Im4LSUnTN
Brentwood, TN
Member since Jul 2015
921 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:21 am to
Seriously, why do we even run an RPO when 1 of the 3 options ain’t going to happen…Nuss ain’t running. It’s a terrible scheme because it doesn’t fit this team’s strengths.
Posted by rar
Member since Dec 2020
368 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:21 am to
I'm a former lineman...in the days before the passive blocking that is taught now. I watch the OL and what I see over and over...regardless of the play called ... is the first move of the offensive line is up ... which puts the defense at the advantage at the start. If you wonder why we don't have a great running game ... look at the passive line blocking ... stand up and try to slap a 300 lb defensive lineman out of the way. Laughable coaching and truly laughable technique. The argument is that's "modern coaching theory" ... the operative word is theory ... teach the line to knock someone on their butt.
Posted by Supermoto Tiger
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2010
10761 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:27 am to
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This post was edited on 10/20/25 at 9:29 am
Posted by The Baker
This is fine.
Member since Dec 2011
20227 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:29 am to
I just think they don't get enough short yardage reps in practice.

Miles used to grind the line into the ground for 2 hours.
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
8477 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:30 am to
Coaching staff of our oline has no idea what they are doing. Just going thru the motions. It is obvious to anyone paying attention that these players have no clue what to do on many plays. Terrible technique.....bad hs ish really.
Posted by Tiger1242
Member since Jul 2011
33196 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:34 am to
Thanks for the detailed answer
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70664 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:35 am to
Obviously technique is awful but I also wonder if they’re even picking the schemes. Modern spread offenses only use a handful of blocking schemes in their offense instead of having Olineman learn every single play . Malzahn calls it the “living playbook” It makes it much easier to learn especially for young players and transfers. Can’t know for sure but judging by the way we check plays and signal plays in it looks like the old way.
Posted by The Pirate King
Pangu
Member since May 2014
68418 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:38 am to
I've seen many practice videos where Davis is coaching them extremely hard. Like he goes harder than most of the coaching staff. The fact they're still so soft boggles the mind.

Makes me wonder if someone isn't coming behind him and playing good cop, whether that's Sloan, Hankton, Atkins, or BK.
This post was edited on 10/20/25 at 9:40 am
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
70664 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:42 am to
This may not be related but we do have players screaming at coaches a lot under Kelly. Is there a discipline issue?
Posted by LaTiger045
franklinton
Member since Oct 2023
305 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:44 am to
You do have point.
Posted by 62Tigerfan
Member since Sep 2015
5379 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:54 am to
Listening to Jacob Hester and Matt Flynn this morning talking mostly about head-scratching horrible play calling and all around bad coaching.
Posted by Cold Cous Cous
Bucktown, La.
Member since Oct 2003
15365 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 9:56 am to
My two cents is that they pushed zone zone zone and wanted to run zone 100% of the time, but eventually realized we suck at zone and have now switched midstream. I must say that a lot of teams have had a lot of success over the years running just iz/oz but personally I hate it (for aesthetic reasons as much as anything tbh). One reason why I hate it is that zone blocking takes away from the "go get 'em" kind of aggression you want to see in O linemen - you're thinking about moving laterally and shite. This attitude, I think, bleeds over into the pass blocking, which we saw in spades on Saturday.

It is really difficult to overstate how bad those guys looked and how painful that performance is to watch. Yes losing Tyree was a huge deal and I think the game may have come out differently with him in there for 60 minutes. (Nuss played terrific although no one on the rant wants to admit this). But injury is just a fact of football life and someone has to pick up the slack.
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
29313 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:03 am to
I get so tired of people saying coaching. THE LSU RUNNING BACKS AVERAGED 5.4 YPC AND 5.3 YPC WHEN DENBROCK WAS THE OC.

Look at what Denbrock is doing at ND. Sloan literally had the older and more experienced version of the 2022 OL in 2024 and they looked like they couldn't run block. Here are some games where Daniels didn't get much yardage, but the RBs did, just to show you the stats aren’t always skewed towards his scrambling yardage.

2022
Florida JD 44 yards, RBs 155 on 24 carries
Arkansas JD 10 yards RBs 188 yards on 32 carries

2023
Arkansas JD 36 yards RBs 153 on 19 carries
Army JD 6 yards RBs 196 yards on 26 carries
Posted by unctiger4
Member since Mar 2015
2425 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:08 am to
quote:

Cracking


One of the more informative posts I’ve read here in some time. Thanks for sharing
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
8477 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 10:37 am to
None of our offensive coaches actually coach. they just tell the players what they should do, but never ingrain it into them when different scenarios occur.
I have never seen a less coached team ever. After this many games, the only thing we can surmise is that they have no clue what to do, so they just keep running the same plays, hoping the players execute better. That is as clear a path to failure as one can get. Don't we have to assume that if they knew how to fix/change the offense, they would? It could be that BK just keeps harping on blaming the players...again, a recipe for failure. And that is who BK is imo....a failure, a fraud, a loser and someone with any desire to preserve his ill gotten legacy, should leave LSU at the end of the season.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
41054 posts
Posted on 10/20/25 at 1:38 pm to
I don’t think “soft” is the correct term.

I think they are pensive, or unsure.

RPO is hard on an OL. They play like they are unsure of their assignments.

That is coaching, but more than the OL and technique. It’s more about the lack of offensive identity of this offense.

I blame the OC more than I do the OL coach

Pad level is an issue, and it happens when you overthinking your assignments
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