Started By
Message

Some Perspective on the QB Situation

Posted on 12/29/22 at 2:00 pm
Posted by One Through Ten
Lafayette
Member since Jul 2022
2 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 2:00 pm
It seems like some of the commentary on this site regarding the qb situation has gone off the rails a little a bit, so I thought I’d try and add a little perspective to the discussion with some stats comparison.

JD 2022
P: 254-371 (68.5%) for 2774 yds (7.5 ypa) 16 TDs 3 INTs R: 180 for 818 yds (4.5 ypa) 11 TDs

Now compare that to these two single season statlines

P: 192-298 (64.4%) for 2746 yds (9.2 ypa) 30 TDs 4 INTs R: 176 for 673 yds (3.8 ypa) 12 TDs
P: 213-314 (67.8%) for 2895 yds (9.2 ypa) 21 TDs 5 INTs R: 217 for 910 yds (4.2 ypa) 14 TDs

Three very similar seasons. JD accounted for 3592 total yds and the two mystery seasons accounted for 3419 and 3805 respectively.

Here’s the kicker: the two mystery seasons are Tim Tebow’s junior and senior years at Florida. The only significant difference between his stats and Jayden’s (besides the fact that both the 2008 and 2009 statlines come from 14 game seasons while JD has only played 13 games) are his passing TDs in 2008. Over that stretch, Tebow went to New York twice and UF won a natty, a sugar bowl, went 1-1 in the SEC championship, and went 13-1 both seasons (ironically Tebow’s Heisman season in 2007 was UF’s worst record while he was there, 9-4). The point being, JD is already performing at a high enough level to win a national championship.

Now compare that to Nussmeier’s performance this year and last year:
2022: P: 41-69 (59.4%) for 627 yds (9.1 ypa) 3 TDs 3 INTs R: 1 for -13 yds
2021: P: 29-57 (50.9%) for 329 yds (5.8 ypa) 5 TDs 5 INTs R: 5 for -46 yds

Nuss’ arm strength and willingness to take shots down the field give him a slight advantage over JD in terms of yards per attempt (9.1 to 7.5). But that is not enough to compensate for his completion percentage being 10% lower than JD’s, his INT count being the same as JD’s despite him having less than 1/5 the attempts, or the fact that he poses 0 run threat.

None of this is meant to be a knock on Nuss. And it’s possible he’ll have a great offseason/spring and win the starting job. But as it stands right now, in terms of measurable performance, JD is lightyears ahead of him. If we can fix our special teams problems and improve our fundamentals on the O-line and the defense, there is no reason this team can’t make a playoff run with JD as the qb next year. It doesn’t make sense to derail that momentum with some contrived qb controversy.
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10438 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 2:11 pm to
Could it be that if Nuss stays and starts BK thinks that WH leaves so he does not sit behind Nuss for 3 years?

Sacrifice Nuss to keep Walker and dad happy?
Posted by Perception
Member since Sep 2017
853 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 2:15 pm to
1st post eh?
Posted by Drayton80
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2018
813 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 2:18 pm to
27 TDs does not equal 42

Despite you saying that he is similar to Tebow (not accurate), his YPA, YPC, and Sacks Allowed are atrocious. Daniel's numbers in those categories are worse than Jennings, Etling, and Harris.
Posted by StevieG504
Metairie
Member since Jun 2013
3487 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 2:21 pm to
Stop!! Your making too much sense!!
Posted by Kajuntiger121110
Member since Aug 2020
622 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 2:23 pm to
These numbers from Tebow mean nothing! Qb play in college has elevated quite a bit since then. Those numbers are now avg
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47834 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 2:26 pm to
He’s being compared to Tebow and Burrow which tells you everything about the cultish crew that makes these comparisons.
Posted by Drayton80
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2018
813 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 2:26 pm to
42 or 35 TDs would have been nice. All the numbers both good and bad are cute, but scoring points is the key. Too many unproductive drives this season in all 4 losses and even in a couple wins.
Posted by 225Tyga
Member since Oct 2013
15784 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 2:27 pm to
Thanks for posting their stats to help the comparison situation…



fricking nerd.
Posted by des4271
Member since Oct 2014
4028 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 2:30 pm to
All that said and Tebow couldn’t make it in the NFL because he couldn’t make all the throws needed to be a successful NFL QB and the same applies to JD as of now. He will need to improve his accuracy on the deep and intermediate throws ( be willing to throw them also ) on top of getting better at pre and post snap reads,better processing skills and throwing on time. He has a lot of work to do to be good enough to carry this team to a championship next year.
Posted by Drayton80
Lake Charles
Member since Oct 2018
813 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 2:34 pm to
Are there any other Heisman trophy winners that we can compare him to? I remember Burrow shitting the bed against a team with a losing record, putting up 80 yards passing against AUB, and getting completely shutdown against Arkansas. The Heisman selection committee is just racist. That is the only explanation for them not inviting Daniels to the ceremony this season. I know players like Burrow come along nearly every year, so it makes sense that Daniels is guaranteed to wake up this summer and have the ability to make reads, an accurate arm, and the courage to let the ball fly. If Burrow can do it, anyone can.
Posted by Yewkindewit
Near Birmingham, Alabama
Member since Apr 2012
20026 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 2:38 pm to
So, JD5 runs 37% of the his run+pass plays. Is this good? I don’t know.
Posted by tiggerthetooth
Big Momma's House
Member since Oct 2010
61181 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 2:38 pm to



The desperation to make Daniels something he's not has become insanity.
Posted by Madking
Member since Apr 2016
47834 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 2:43 pm to
What’s crazy is when you compare him to similar, winning QBs his fanboys go ape shite and attack like you’re criticizing him. Nothing short of worship and comparisons the the greatest of all time is tolerated.
This post was edited on 12/29/22 at 2:44 pm
Posted by wadewilson
Member since Sep 2009
36527 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 2:44 pm to
quote:

The point being, JD is already performing at a high enough level to win a national championship.


It's wild that you actually looked at 1 set of numbers and that was enough for you to come to this conclusion.

Pretty insightful into the mind of someone who thinks JD is a great QB.
Posted by novabill
Crossville, TN
Member since Sep 2005
10438 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 2:48 pm to
quote:

st post eh?


Just found this site and thought I would try it
Posted by White Tiger
Dallas
Member since Jul 2007
12830 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 3:07 pm to
Having JD start next year is a huge mistake. BTW, those stats do not account for plays NOT made. JD excels in that category.

Posted by Cooterlane
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2022
1409 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 3:09 pm to
Cool name!!!
Posted by Cooterlane
Shreveport
Member since Sep 2022
1409 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 3:10 pm to
Wait so JD is Tebow but without the wins and trophies?
Posted by Mobiletiggah
Mobile Alabama
Member since Mar 2021
2673 posts
Posted on 12/29/22 at 3:12 pm to
This doesn’t take into account that the competition will be fair next fall. Or that the O-lines’ competency could be much better and would likely change the dynamics as to who will be most effective. Fact, if JD5 improves his pocket passing skills and effectiveness….no one will beat him out and no one will be unhappy.
first pageprev pagePage 1 of 3Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on Twitter, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookTwitterInstagram