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Posted on 12/31/18 at 3:56 pm to Greace
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OU recruits quite a bit worse than we do. But they still managed to score 34 points while once again we are shutout
I wouldn't say quite a bit worse but I think if you tallied up the talent according to 247 ours is higher rated.
There is simply too big of a discrepancy in offensive efficiency to explain it away by recruiting.
Perhaps OU is better at identifying offensive talent but it's not to an extreme extent, certainly not enough to explain why their offense is #1 and ours was in the 100s for a good bit of the year. The caliber of HS players both teams recruit is too similar to say it's all recruiting.
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 3:58 pm
Posted on 12/31/18 at 3:57 pm to Goldrush25
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So how come everyone else can score on them and we laid a fat 0? Is everyone else's recruiting better than ours?
Posted on 12/31/18 at 4:12 pm to Tigerpride18
Yal keep pushing this narrative that Bama always has better Olineman than us but can you point to any Bama Olineman in the NFL that are Pro-bowl level players? We have a few but Bama has 2/3 starting centers and 1 tackle who leads the league in penalties with no all star level players at all. It’s not a talent issue nomatter how many lies the staff try to push on the fans or how many times they throw our boys under the bus.
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 12/31/18 at 4:40 pm to Allthatfades
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I think I have reasonable expectations. I expected 7-8 wins this year. We far exceeded expectations and O should be given tons of credit for that.
My gosh. Why were the expectations so low this year? Think about it. Because O lost 4 games last year including Troy and a record setting loss vs State. In a season where we were told the playoffs were the goal and no rebuild was necessary. The bar was low because O had an awful first year as coach. O could ride that rollercoaster for years.
Now, being honest, I thought the Ga win was exceptional. The Fla and A&M losses were rough. The recruiting has gone very well. Being an LSU fan I’m hoping for the best. In no way do I want the program to tank. I’d rather eat crow about O. I’m really hoping for a bowl win- it’s needed badly to get to 10 wins- and then 10-11 regular season wins next year. I think that would indicate forward movement. At some point the offense needs to progress. Really believing we’ll see that next season.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 5:06 pm to MEd LSU
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How long did it take Clemson when their interim coach got the permanent job?
3rd time he played them.
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 5:07 pm
Posted on 12/31/18 at 5:15 pm to Tigerpride18
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There's just a gap in talent on the lines between us and Alabama. There's the issue
Dude, it's not the Bama loss each year that pisses me off. We all know LSU doesn't have the same talent that Bama has. Who does? What pisses me off is losing to A$M and UF, two teams that we have clobbered recently in recruiting.
Quit settling for mediocrity and demand excellence.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 5:23 pm to geauxbrown
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Quit settling for mediocrity and demand excellence
This goes way deeper than just the coach. There is a good ole boy network set now and their claws are dug in
Posted on 12/31/18 at 5:36 pm to Tigerpride18
Yep. We have started to,close the GAP. Bama also knows all of our plays before we run them.
Pretty sure Bama strength agility and explosion training has eclipsed our as well.
We were told yesterday that some of,our WR could not process audibles. Pretty limiting.
We have a QB who,can read defenses pre snap. Cannot use so,e of that.
With Burrow we have the third best returning starter in the SEC behind Tua and Fromm. And Burrow beat Fromm head up.
Pretty sure Bama strength agility and explosion training has eclipsed our as well.
We were told yesterday that some of,our WR could not process audibles. Pretty limiting.
We have a QB who,can read defenses pre snap. Cannot use so,e of that.
With Burrow we have the third best returning starter in the SEC behind Tua and Fromm. And Burrow beat Fromm head up.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 5:40 pm to Goldrush25
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I just have to disagree.
Why can so many other teams at least score on them and we couldn't? Is our recruiting worse than most teams they played this season?
It's astounding to continuously witness fans defend and make excuses (OL) for an offense that has been nothing short of just plain terrible. It's quite amazing that they clearly don't understand how bad LSU's offense has performed over the last couple seasons, much less over the last decade.
The need for a modern and efficiently ran offense at LSU isn't a new concept and for a team of LSU's stature to fail at this repeatedly is unacceptable. It's absurd that some think streamlining the OL recruiting is all that's needed to dig LSU out of this hole offensively. Suggesting LSU's offense needs anything less than a complete system overhaul is asinine.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 5:41 pm to Madking
quote:Bama has 5 OL's that know their reads/assignments and execute in a game. LSU doesn't. OL is not primarily about individual size and strength. It's about 5 guys being on the same page at the same time and executing the blocking scheme. You don't see that here, especially on passing plays. This is apparent to those who know what they're looking at during a game. It's time for Cregg to get them in a scheme they can understand and carry out when the lights come on!
Yal keep pushing this narrative that Bama always has better Olineman than us but can you point to any Bama Olineman in the NFL that are Pro-bowl level players?
Posted on 12/31/18 at 6:01 pm to Tigerpride18
The gap between us and B is both Of and D lines. It's not a recruiting issue it's physical development and athletic development. Unless you have this as compared to B, you'll struggle in every game. This is the root cause that not many on this board and talk show guys admit for some reason. I blame the S and Cond. coach for not developing these players to the standard of B's. Unless we have a product to that standard, we'll struggle against top tier teams.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 6:01 pm to Tigerpride18
The gap between us and B is both Of and D lines. It's not a recruiting issue it's physical development and athletic development. Unless you have this as compared to B, you'll struggle in every game. This is the root cause that not many on this board and talk show guys admit for some reason. I blame the S and Cond. coach for not developing these players to the standard of B's. Unless we have a product to that standard, we'll struggle against top tier teams.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 7:13 pm to 72Tigah
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The gap between us and B is both Of and D lines. It's not a recruiting issue it's physical development and athletic development. Unless you have this as compared to B, you'll struggle in every game. This is the root cause that not many on this board and talk show guys admit for some reason. I blame the S and Cond. coach for not developing these players to the standard of B's. Unless we have a product to that standard, we'll struggle against top tier teams.
So what you're saying is that, Moffit isn't getting it done?
Posted on 12/31/18 at 7:21 pm to Tigerpride18
Wow. We went 9-3 and overachieved. The new bar for LSU is 8-4? 7-5? We're now an average SEC program again I guess
Posted on 12/31/18 at 7:24 pm to dcrews
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dcrews
unohasnoright to talktrash to or aboutanyone
Posted on 12/31/18 at 7:25 pm to Tigerpride18
There is a QB gap as well. Mett was the last QB capable of beating Bama. JB9 will not beat Bama regardless of how well the OL is playing.
Posted on 12/31/18 at 7:29 pm to TrevRollings29
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TrevRollings29
Would,Coulda, Shoulda
Neither immybob or Tommyjo wanted to come to lsu
herman bolted for Tx and Fisher's agent said lsu was never a consideration but an avenue to get what he wanted at fsu
get some new material
What attainable coach would you like to hire
this job is not a desirable to coaches as you think, mainly because of the "fire the coach mentality after every punt, penalty, loss or season
Besides i would love to go evaluate your performance at work and then spread it all over the interweb
Posted on 12/31/18 at 7:35 pm to Goldrush25
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I can't ask what type of offense Jesus runs?
the point is you want to question what Jesus would do which proves that you would still be an antagonist
This post was edited on 12/31/18 at 7:39 pm
Posted on 12/31/18 at 7:36 pm to Goldrush25
I agree. I think people looking at winning championships as the primary indicator of success are missing the point. The head coach has very little control over how the team plays or who is on the roster. So much of it is really out of his control.
You can’t just look at winning big games and winning your division as the big indicator. Frankly, winning 8/9 games this day in age with parity being what it is should be celebrated. There’s just so much darn competition now. I believe we have the right coach to lead us to many more seasons of success.
You can’t just look at winning big games and winning your division as the big indicator. Frankly, winning 8/9 games this day in age with parity being what it is should be celebrated. There’s just so much darn competition now. I believe we have the right coach to lead us to many more seasons of success.
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