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re: Softball - #6. LSU vs #25 Arkansas at 6:00 in BR on SECN+

Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:28 pm to
Posted by Casualobserver1985
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2021
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:28 pm to
If you were Berzon parents would you have your kid stay in Baton Rouge for 2 more yrs with the status quo? hell no
This post was edited on 4/26/24 at 8:29 pm
Posted by lesthemadhatter
Louisiana
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:28 pm to
Do you really think there's a chance Woodward could make a move after this year with another early exit? I've read that the recruiting class coming in is really good with that number 1 pitcher. Is that worth the wait on a change? What are your thoughts 357? Everyone else is winning championships at LSU now.
Posted by oj
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:28 pm to
Reflection of the coach
Posted by Casualobserver1985
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2021
318 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:30 pm to
100000% That’s why women’s bball is elite they are dawgs (bitches) and I mean that in good way
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
13967 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:38 pm to
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Do you really think there's a chance Woodward could make a move


On the coach of the #3 RPI team…..No
Posted by Casualobserver1985
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2021
318 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 8:44 pm to
I said no earlier in the week but the way they playing and looking like a jr high team, errors, running into each other, no passion, no apparent desire and really coaching 101 errors I think SW might pull the trigger unless they get to a Super Regional. That only delays the inevitable though because their roster is awful next yr and losing record will be possible
Posted by The First Cut
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Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:12 pm to
Jr High team #3 RPI……impressive
Posted by Casualobserver1985
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2021
318 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 9:14 pm to
That was earned with 24-0, since then losing record, facts are hard sometimes
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Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29219 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:25 pm to
We do this same song and dance every season. Beth has a good OOC showing, the fans who think she is above scrutiny come out to crow, and we collapse when it counts.

Who cares if Howard Dobson is respected in the profession? I don’t think any serious person would blame LSU for letting him go. We can’t do any worse considering the talent we have.


I just don’t understand why Beth Torina is so unwilling to grow and change. This was excusable 8 years ago but she isn’t an up and comer anymore. Part of what made her exciting was the promise of growth and you could argue she’s regressed as a coach.
This post was edited on 4/27/24 at 12:32 am
Posted by Casualobserver1985
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2021
318 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:34 pm to
Keep the new coach and good gosh allow him to coach hitting not sit out there like an ornament and coach 1st base. Go hire 2 more from OUTSIDE the program enough of friend hires….
This post was edited on 4/26/24 at 10:35 pm
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
10919 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 10:51 pm to
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Do you really think there's a chance Woodward could make a move after this year with another early exit?
He should have made the move 2-3 years ago.

"Softball Nikki" has had enough time at LSU and it's time to go.

Rank Mediocrity is the Name of the Game.

MA's love it. "Leave Beth alone and quit being mean to Her."

It only gets harder with Softball Queen Patty Gasso and Oklahoma coming into the SEC.

Time to say Adios and Farewell & Adieu to Torina.

I doubt we could pull Gasso from UO, but maybe she wants a new challenge and $$$$$$$$$ talks. (Everybody said we couldn't get Mulkey away from Baylor, but here she is)
Posted by Casualobserver1985
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2021
318 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:01 pm to
Gasso make 2 mil
Posted by TigerCub
Team Boxtard
Member since May 2006
20211 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:39 pm to
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Jr High team #3 RPI……impressive


We're only 11-12 since the 24-0 start.
Posted by LouisianaLonghorn
Austin, Texas
Member since Jan 2006
14176 posts
Posted on 4/26/24 at 11:44 pm to
quote:

We're only 11-12 since the 24-0 start.


Yep. If Arky wins the series, we will have won only 2 SEC series all season.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29219 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 12:43 am to
I just thought about it taking nearly an entire extra season and some change before she could catch Yvette in wins at LSU.

I understand the sec has gotten much better over the years, but you would think we’d have won at least one sec championship over the years at this point.

There shouldn’t be a sport at LSU besides cross country, swimming, and volleyball that should go 15 years without a sec championship. Track is unique too due to the scoring methods and even track sneaks up on Arkansas at times.

I hate feeling this way about Torina because I used to be such a huge fan, but this has gotten out of hand. Softball is one of the best supported sports at lsu from a facility and budget standpoint. If track had the budget and top 5 facilities softball has they’d have more championships.
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29219 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 12:51 am to
I’ve seen you catch some scrutiny regarding that but I agree. I think it’s bizarre Beth hired a very promising hitting coach and proceeded to not tell Dobson to take a hike.

Imagine how bad this team would be if Leftwich were still here exact same roster with even less development. You could easily argue NC State bought Beth a little time forcing her to make some fricking changes for once


To add to my above post regarding sec championships-how come Deifel has been able to surpass LSU with a program that despite a great facility had zero tradition before she arrived? Deifel has 3x the sec titles Beth has in less time
This post was edited on 4/27/24 at 3:08 am
Posted by Casualobserver1985
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2021
318 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 7:55 am to
I have no idea why hire a hitting coach if you aren’t going to move the existing hitting coach, it’s not fair to either really whether they are any good or not. I would assume one or maybe both will leave after this season, personally I think new energy is needed in Baton Rouge so if you keep the new guy replace everyone else because what has been going on recently isn’t working. Could it be this class of seniors? That is possible, it has been the worse class in her 12 yr career but 12 yrs is a long time with same staff so if BT stays hire at least 2 new ppl.
This post was edited on 4/27/24 at 7:57 am
Posted by tigerbait2010
PNW
Member since May 2006
29219 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:34 am to
I noticed Beth gave a huge shoutout to Dobson for helping her surpass Yvette, even though it took 1 1/2 extra seasons to even catch Yvette with no sec titles and the longest drought we’ve ever had not making the WCWS.


For half a decade I’ve jumped on the board for a few minutes to roast Dobson, and I quit paying any attention for a few seasons. Was dumb enough to put stock in them this year

It’s time Beth goes. She’s had plenty of top 10 classes. Next year’s top 3 class won’t save her either.
Posted by Fat Bastard
coach, investor, gambler
Member since Mar 2009
72649 posts
Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:41 am to
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I just don’t understand why Beth Torina is so unwilling to grow and change.


she is very hard headed like les miles was. FACT.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 4/27/24 at 10:42 am to
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It’s time Beth goes. She’s had plenty of top 10 classes. Next year’s top 3 class won’t save her either.


she has underachieved with the talent she has had. sound familiar?

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