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re: So who are the two members of the LSU athletic department that are going to resign?

Posted on 11/18/20 at 8:45 am to
Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
50588 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 8:45 am to
If Verge will probably let him retire as he is probably close to 30 years
If I was LSU I would clean house in compliance as well, it's time for new leadership in that area, Bahnsen has to go
Posted by Geauxcoco1
Member since Nov 2020
66 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 8:46 am to
You’ve been listening to Trump too much baw...
Posted by Midtiger farm
Member since Nov 2014
5623 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 8:54 am to
Yep they could attack Obama admin Tiltle IX rules that let schools be judge jury and executioner without giving young black males due process and say they didn’t want to do same thing here
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75545 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 8:55 am to
Probably Verge or both Sells

Should be both Sells.

Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
35296 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:01 am to
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Verge's FIL is on the BOS, the Governor personally picked him and will override all the National bullshite. Verge isn't going any where.




Verge deleted a text, which is against policy.
Verge didn't report a situation of abuse, which he clearly knew about.

Those 2 facts are 100% true and undisputed. The evidence is clear on this.

No way he survives these egregious mistakes, regardless of skin color, political ties, or friendship with Woodward.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
75545 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:05 am to
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Verge deleted a text, which is against policy.
Verge didn't report a situation of abuse, which he clearly knew about.


I thought He didn’t save the text like he’s supposed to and it is supposed to have deleted automatically as older texts do.
Posted by Uncs
Member since Aug 2008
3080 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:19 am to
Man I hate to see Verge go of True!
Posted by Geauxld Finger
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
32275 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:25 am to
He's also a former tiger football player. that probably outranks all that other bullshite as to why he's employed at LSU

Verge is one of the best people i've ever met. You want to talk about a guy that does everything for his alma mater. Would be a shame if this ends his legacy. He could be an AD somewhere, or could have been
This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 9:26 am
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17458 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:27 am to
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Verge's FIL is on the BOS, the Governor personally picked him and will override all the National bullshite. Verge isn't going any where.
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Verge is probably the most politically connected person employed by LSU. He’s protected on multiple levels.
Insert the word "connected" in place of "protected".

In cases like this your connection to others who have a lot to lose themselves works against you. They will go after him to appease the mob and keep it off them. At the very least that protection you mention, normally in place, will not be forthcoming.

I suspect Verge for sure. If he steered, hid, or scrubbed Title IX reports he's gone. I suspect the second MIGHT be Mickey Joseph; if there's any hint, substantiated or not, that he sat on any reports regarding Drake Davis... he gone too. I don't know that happened, for sure, but....

So it has been reported, so far without corroboration, that Verge deleted texts to him regarding Drake Davis. If those texts came from MJ there's his issue. It's even more of an issue if those texts came from a coach with an unauthorized phone, hinting at recruiting improprieties (unauthorized phone is against school, NCAA, and athletic dept policies- all three) AND sending these supposed texts on that phone in order to hide the sender and that would be why Verge deleted them. So Verge very well MAY have deleted the texts about sexual assault simply to hide the fact a coach, MJ, was using an unauthorized phone but in the process actually covered up crimes by Drake Davis. Or, he was actually trying to cover up BOTH by deleting the texts.

Either way, it doesn't matter what he was trying to hide. IF Verge indeed did delete texts regarding DD, he DID cover up those crimes no matter WHY he was doing it.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
160448 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:28 am to
I agree Verge is a great dude...but if he deleted that text AND did not report it, then that’s really tough to not fire him.

Now if he reported it and simply deleted the text before protocol allows it to be, then he may get off with a slap on the wrist. I hope that’s what happened for multiple reasons

Boy the headaches Lester and his son have caused this AD...and both sucked
This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 9:31 am
Posted by LSUAlum2001
Stavro Mueller Beta
Member since Aug 2003
47445 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:29 am to
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who are the two members


Can both be Bo Bahnsen?
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
35296 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:29 am to
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I suspect Verge for sure. If he steered, hid, or scrubbed Title IX reports he's gone. I suspect the second MIGHT be Mickey Joseph; if there's any hint, substantiated or not, that he sat on any reports regarding Drake Davis... he gone too. I don't know that happened, for sure, but....


And what a shitty hill to die on. Drake fricking Davis.
Posted by DBG
vermont
Member since May 2004
75686 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:30 am to
Verge allegedly deleted texts from Davis himself, admitting to punching the tennis player. They were published.

If he truly did delete them and didn’t report it, his career is done.
This post was edited on 11/18/20 at 9:32 am
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17458 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:35 am to
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And what a shitty hill to die on. Drake fricking Davis.
Agreed. And I'll add to the chorus that Verge is a great guy.

I just can't see him intentionally trying to cover for Davis.

That's why I, opinion only, suspect Joseph might have texted him about Davis from a burner phone and Verge screwed up mightily trying to protect Joseph, not Davis, since reporting that would expose the fact MJ was using an unauthorized phone.

That fits what we know about Verge where he would try to protect a coach from recruiting violations but would never try and protect a lost cause kid who is a repeat offender of assault and violence.

It also fits that MJ would be trying to "play it safe" and use a burner phone to send a text to Verge after Davis got arrested. Such a dumbass move in other words. That fits too.
Posted by Solo Cam
Member since Sep 2015
33949 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:38 am to
quote:

Verge deleted a text, which is against policy.
Verge didn't report a situation of abuse, which he clearly knew about.

Those 2 facts are 100% true and undisputed. The evidence is clear on this.

No way he survives these egregious mistakes, regardless of skin color, political ties, or friendship with Woodward.


I don’t know the facts of the case but if this is true then he has to be fired.

I’ve always enjoyed verge and appreciated his love for LSU but you can’t hide shite like that.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
35296 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:42 am to
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Agreed. And I'll add to the chorus that Verge is a great guy.



Verge is a good dude. But Verge isn't perfect. He is not the saint that people make him out to be.
Posted by MardiGrasMambo
Metry
Member since Feb 2018
824 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:43 am to
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He's a freelancer. Never heard of him before but he's followed by Jacques Doucet and T-Bob so he can't be all smoke.

Never heard of him either, but it would be funny if he got the scoop over all the other usual LSU beat reporters.
Posted by LSUGrad9295
Baton Rouge
Member since May 2007
35296 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:46 am to
quote:

Verge deleted a text, which is against policy.
Verge didn't report a situation of abuse, which he clearly knew about.

Those 2 facts are 100% true and undisputed. The evidence is clear on this.

No way he survives these egregious mistakes, regardless of skin color, political ties, or friendship with Woodward.


I don’t know the facts of the case but if this is true then he has to be fired.



This was published in the USA Today story. You be the judge.

Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
17458 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:47 am to
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Verge is a good dude. But Verge isn't perfect. He is not the saint that people make him out to be.
Oh, for sure. There's a reason all saints are dead. It's impossible to be in positions like that and be a saint.

I started to add a caveat to my post above, I'll add it here:
BUT, you never know about people. People do crazy shite. Sometimes in the heat of the moment, sometimes not. Sometimes bad things for good reasons, sometimes for no reason at all. It is the way of the world and the reality is all good people just haven't gone bad yet and the bad people never were good.

* Note I didn't put a time frame on my caveat either. It's always been that way. It's not new.
Posted by lostinbr
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Oct 2017
11859 posts
Posted on 11/18/20 at 9:54 am to
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Verge allegedly deleted texts from Davis himself, admitting to punching the tennis player. They were published.

If he truly did delete them and didn’t report it, his career is done.

According to the article, USA Today “requested copies of all text messages sent and received by Ausberry over a weeklong period at that time.” LSU replied that Verge had “checked his phone and found no messages.” Note that it doesn’t say that USA Today’s request or LSU’s response specified text messages between Ausberry and Davis.

The article also implies that Verge did not report the texts, by saying the messages weren’t found until police obtained a search warrant for Drake’s phone in August.

I’ve said this before, but to reiterate: If Verge deleted the text messages without reporting them, he should and likely will be fired. But there are potential explanations that don’t necessarily involve impropriety on his part:

- Verge might have reported the text messages immediately. As of two weeks later, a Title IX investigation was ongoing. That investigation could have already been ongoing when Verge received the texts. It could have started when he received the texts. The timeline in the article is pieced together from external sources, mostly police reports and interviews.

- If USA Today requested ALL text messages from that time frame and LSU said Verge had none, it’s possible that there all of his text messages were gone. Maybe he got a new phone. Maybe he deleted the text messages after reporting them to the LSU investigators, which satisfies the record retention requirements, and LSU is being coy in their response because they don’t want to release all of the Title IX investigative materials.

Or maybe Verge covered it up like the article implies. But there are enough errors by omission in the article that I’m inclined to wait and see how this plays out before calling for Verge’s head.
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