- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: So what did CEH do? UPDATE: CEH involved in fatal shooting
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:18 am to bluewatersailor
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:18 am to bluewatersailor
quote:
Sadly the press just sucks today. From an insider the 18 year old kid pulled a BB gun, that's like taking a knife to a gun fight. Then CEH, who's father is a retired policeman, pulled a real gun and fired twice, once in the chest and once in the head. Guess the kid was taught to shoot. Still self defense but why don't these facts come out after a week? Press covering for an athlete and while I bleed purple and gold I just hate the press. That's not cofirmed but from a very good source, I was in the press for 35 years.
So, you bitch about your 2nd or 3rd or 4th hand information not being made public then literally go on to say that info isn't confirmed. Christ............
And I'm pretty sure your source is TD.
1
Posted on 12/27/18 at 10:31 am to whitefoot
quote:
Also, keep this in mind. Nobody would have even heard about this story if an LSU athlete wasn't involved.
True. It would have also been newsworthy if a LEO had shot a kid in the face and chest after the kid pulled a BB gun.
It would have been equally justified, but the public outrage would have been vastly different.
I hope community leaders view this as a failure of the community that continues to raise kids believing they need to take things from other people with a threat of violence.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 12:36 pm to Willie Stroker
quote:
I hope community leaders view this as a failure of the community that continues to raise kids believing they need to take things from other people with a threat of violence.
Communities don't raise kids, parents do. Every child deserves 2 parents committed to raising their child, emotionally and financially. Shame on those who bring children into this world without this commitment.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 3:42 pm to Stevo
quote:
Communities don't raise kids, parents do.
You’re not wrong, but you’re overlooking the role the community plays in helping to determine a child’s future. In many of those neighborhoods, residents will not call police to report crimes. It happens way too often where a murder or some other egregious crime can happen in broad daylight with many witnesses, yet no one steps up to be a witness. It’s not enough to have two parents raising kids in those neighborhoods. Communities have to do their part too.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 5:26 pm to Willie Stroker
Several problems going on legally in this "Armed Robbery", self defense shooting in case you are not familiar with LA law....in an Armed Robbery the attacker must be in possession of a "Dangerous, life threatening weapon" not one that someone thought was dangerous...If indeed the suspect had a BB gun and not a real gun, then the LSU players have serious issues...Likely that the reason no updates is that LSU and the DA office is figuring how to handle this case...It will likely go to a Grand Jury and a not be tried as everyone can understand if they are in the same situation..but if a BB gun was what Kobe had the CEH and the other player do have more issues than most would be aware of...will be surprised if he made trip to Fiesta bowl...hope he did...LA law on armed robbery is very specific noted than someone said that bringing a bb gun is like bringing a knife to a gun fight...the players would have been better if it was a knife that qualifies as a dangerous weapon...stay tuned..
Posted on 12/27/18 at 5:38 pm to cajunfantasy
cajunfantasy-If as reported that the robber brandished a weapon to rob CEH and his friend , then CEH has every right to use deadly force.
Take for instance, if you go into a bank with a fake gun and rob that bank and get caught, you will be charged with ARMED ROBBERY. It doesn't matter if the gun was fake or real.
Take for instance, if you go into a bank with a fake gun and rob that bank and get caught, you will be charged with ARMED ROBBERY. It doesn't matter if the gun was fake or real.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 5:42 pm to TeamLSU
wrong...a fake gun will not get an armed robbery charge thats the point...most fans don't know laws
Posted on 12/27/18 at 5:52 pm to cajunfantasy
quote:
then the LSU players have serious issues...
If the story is the dude tried to rob them in CEH's car.
Louisiana has a stand you ground law for this reason.
The only thing that would be different was if the dude was alive he wouldnt be charged with armed robbery, it would just be robbery.
But he isn't alive and the world is a better place.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 5:55 pm to cajunfantasy
quote:
Several problems going on legally in this "Armed Robbery", self defense shooting in case you are not familiar with LA law....in an Armed Robbery the attacker must be in possession of a "Dangerous, life threatening weapon"
I'm going to call bullshite on that.
LINK
quote:
Six boys are facing armed robbery charges after police say they used a toy gun to rob two men in the French Quarter, Monday evening (March 19), according to New Orleans police
In any event, whether it meets the criteria for armed robbery doens't mean it doesn't meet the criteria for self defense.
quote:
If indeed the suspect had a BB gun and not a real gun, then the LSU players have serious issues
Common sense tells you this isn't true. If a person is reasonably fearful for his life, or the life of someone else, deadly force is justified.
quote:
Universal Citation: LA Rev Stat § 14:20
§20. Justifiable homicide
A. A homicide is justifiable: (1) When committed in self-defense by one who reasonably believes that he is in imminent danger of losing his life or receiving great bodily harm and that the killing is necessary to save himself from that danger.
quote:
Likely that the reason no updates is that LSU and the DA office is figuring how to handle this case...It will likely go to a Grand Jury and a not be tried as everyone can understand if they are in the same situation
Reasonable
quote:
but if a BB gun was what Kobe had the CEH and the other player do have more issues than most would be aware of
No
quote:
will be surprised if he made trip to Fiesta bowl
agree
Posted on 12/27/18 at 6:02 pm to moneyg
quote:
will be surprised if he made trip to Fiesta bowl
agree
I hope this is wrong. If CEH feels up to it and his mind is right I hope he makes the trip and LSU and or the DA don't stop him. He shouldn't have miss out on the trip and bowl experience because some damn thug tried to play billy bad arse and lost.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 6:05 pm to Ponchy Tiger
quote:
I hope this is wrong. If CEH feels up to it and his mind is right I hope he makes the trip
That's a big if.
The kid probably needs time to digest what happened to him.
quote:
He shouldn't have miss out on the trip and bowl experience because some damn thug tried to play billy bad arse and lost.
I'm not suggesting he be punished. I'm suggesting it's in his best interest and that he, his parents, and the LSU staff recognize it.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 6:06 pm to MightyYat
quote:
So, you bitch about your 2nd or 3rd or 4th hand information not being made public then literally go on to say that info isn't confirmed. Christ...
In fairness to him, he did say he was in the press for 35 years. I have met very few people in the press that have common sense. Most are quick to throw around "freedom of the press" but will quickly stomp on and invade your privacy and print anything to smear someone's reputation to sell that next paper or get another click on their site.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 6:09 pm to moneyg
I was simply pointing out the LA armed robbery laws, I think it will be ruled reasonable, and most people that had a weapon would have done the same, but this does muddy the water...the link on the N.O. case is typical bs by news and police as they do not want kids robbing people, but no DA, repeat NO DA will chg them with armed robbery the definition is wrong....every TV show with a suicide in it will mention that the ins company will not pay off in case of suicide which is totally bogus, but TV doesn't want people killing themselves so family can collect,,, TV does socially responsible reporting most of the time...I support the 2 players, I am a former LSU athlete myself...but the BB gun is legally a twist...
Posted on 12/27/18 at 6:10 pm to moneyg
quote:why is it in his best interest?
I'm not suggesting he be punished. I'm suggesting it's in his best interest and that he, his parents, and the LSU staff recognize it.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 6:14 pm to cajunfantasy
quote:
wrong...a fake gun will not get an armed robbery charge thats the point...most fans don't know laws
You are wrong....very wrong actually.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 6:15 pm to cajunfantasy
quote:
BB gun is legally a twist...
I am no lawyer and don't claim to be but I just see it being a problem. If this was the People's Republic of California, maybe he might have something to worry about.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 6:18 pm to Ponchy Tiger
quote:
I am no lawyer and don't claim to be but I just see it being a problem. If this was the People's Republic of California, maybe he might have something to worry about
This guy doesn't have the slightest clue what he is talking about
Posted on 12/27/18 at 6:20 pm to Red Stick Tigress
Welp,tell that to the Naypor basketball player murdered by a team mate
Posted on 12/27/18 at 6:21 pm to Ponchy Tiger
quote:
I hope this is wrong. If CEH feels up to it and his mind is right I hope he makes the trip and LSU and or the DA don't stop him. He shouldn't have miss out on the trip and bowl experience because some damn thug tried to play billy bad arse and lost
This may not even be in the hands of the DA yet. If it is, unlikely they have touched it yet. CEH should be clear to do as he wishes.
Posted on 12/27/18 at 6:24 pm to kengel2
quote:
The only thing that would be different was if the dude was alive he wouldnt be charged with armed robbery, it would just be robbery.
Wrong. Even mentioning weapon can get you an armed robbery charge in some states.
Page 47 of 49
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News