re: So Orgeron didn’t know about Marshall leaving the team until Sunday?

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They all lie and tell half truths.

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Agreed.

But those half truths and lies shine a positive light on their team, party or affiliation.

This did the opposite.

It’s not a big deal at all, the pictures leaking just was poor judgement overall by him. They wouldn’t even be mentioned outside of laughing at them if the entire program wasn’t a dumpster fire at the moment.

No one is saying O shouldn’t take pics with people, or his gf. Just don’t leak ones that look like you just finished fricking after Mizzou finished fricking you.

O has more problems than heated up leftovers. He needs to fix his coaching hires and win back his locker room. Once that is done no one will give a shite about playboying it up. However, until then people are going to question his motivation and fire because of optics.

It’s the same as the USA Today losers saying 9 players were accused of rape/dating violence. They include 3 or 4 in that number that weren’t real once police got involved. The ones that did something are the real problem but it brings a bad image if you just lump the rest on to.

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He didn't leak the picture himself, so the only logical explanation would be you believe he shouldn't let other people take pictures of him.

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No, point blank, that is not the “only logical explanation.” I don’t take you for a dumb guy based on this conversation, but that’s a stupid remark. Like it or not, you’re in the minority in thinking this is not a picture of two people without clothes on in what looks to be a suggestive position. Of course he can take photos, but it doesn’t take a genius to recognize how that particular picture could be perceived and maybe think better of it.

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And maybe it wasn't you, but someone ITT mentioned something about her nudes being leaked. That's fricked up and something completely out of his control whatsoever. (and whoever did that should be in jail TBH)

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It absolutely was not me, and that’s disgusting. Maybe you should do a little more due diligence before painting with such a broad brush while you are vehemently defending O from others who you say are doing that very thing.

Hell there is nothing wrong with O being single and banging every single freshmen girl or guy on campus if he wants. However when your program is below standard it’s a bad look if half naked selfies are floating around.

O is free to date any person he pleases, but when the program is in the tank people get pissed and even off the field stuff will get played up, especially when you make it appear you have lost all control of your team.

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Maybe Terrace didn't tell O directly prior to Sunday, was planning to after the game, and that information was leaked by someone else and wasn't supposed to when it did. Or maybe Orgeron was talking out of his arse. I don't really care. I'm more concerned about these coaching hires that haven't worked out, fixing them, and making sure our recruiting class stays together.

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All of this seems tied in together to me.

A team captain stood in front of a team and tried to rally them. A week later he quits the team and the coach claims he had no knowledge of it until after it reached the message boards.

How do you get a locker room back after that?

If it’s the truth then your most team oriented guy. The one true leader in the locker room doesn’t respect you enough to give you a heads up.

If it’s a lie then you’re throwing your most team oriented guy, your one true leader under the bus when the locker room is already in shambles.

I can not think of a single good thing that comment could bring.

It wasn’t coach speak because coach speak is a non answer that’s smooths over issues. This was a definitive answer that can do nothing but make things worse.

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How did we know about it before he did? Wasn't there several folks saying A&M was his last game earlier this week.

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I'm fairly certain that he's saying that he wasn't told by Marshall until Sunday.

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That’s not what he said though. He said he heard “nothing” about it until sunday

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I didn't hear the quote or the context, but I seriously doubt that the point he was making was that he didn't hear any rumors and was caught completely off guard.

In fact, my assumption is exactly the opposite. He was probably being petty and passive aggressive by making the point that he wasn't told by Marshall until Sunday even though it was a poorly kept secret.

Again, I didn't hear it so feel free to correct me.

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A team captain stood in front of a team and tried to rally them. A week later he quits the team and the coach claims he had no knowledge of it until after it reached the message boards. If it’s the truth then your most team oriented guy. The one true leader in the locker room doesn’t respect you enough to give you a heads up.

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There are plenty of different scenarios of how it played out. First, I have no doubt he hadn't heard whispers about it, but I also wouldn't expect a coach to put that out for others to hear, especially after Marshall gave his rah, rah speech about finishing a week prior. It's very plausible that when Orgeron says Sunday was the first he heard about meant it was the first he heard about it from Terrace. Maybe Terrace, as the leader and knowing he had just given that speech to the team, didn't want to distract his team mates with this news before the game Saturday. I don't think Orgeron not hearing from Terrace prior necessarily means he didn't respect Orgeron enough to tell him sooner. Quite frankly, he could have been scared to say anything because that can be a tough thing to do, and Marshall is still a kid. Hell, even NFL players sometimes don't have the balls to tell their coach.

I also don't think he made Marshall look bad and went out of his way to do the opposite:

"Terrace did come talk to me yesterday morning like a man. Terrace and I have a great relationship. I played with his uncle Joe Delaney and he and I talk about Joe all the time. It was different between a player and coach, between me and Terrace are almost like family. He came and talked to me like a man, he explained his decision. I respected his decision.”

"I think it’s something we’ve got to deal with. Obviously he had a change of heart. I thought when he said it he meant it, and the team believed him. I think that obviously he had a change of heart. You never can tell what’s going on with guys when they talk with their families or people they need to talk to when they make personal decisions. I think this was strictly a business decision for Terrace. I can’t speak for him. Let him speak for it. But, again, we support him and he’s been a great LSU Tiger for us.”

That doesn't sound like a guy trying to pass the ball and make Marshall look bad by springing this on him out of nowhere. People are asking him questions like "when did he tell you" "what about the speech he made a week ago" and so on. I don't think his answers were horrible to any of those questions. This just seems like another situation where our fans psychoanalyze comments coaches make and, if the team is struggling, they will latch on to the most negative connotation possible.

This is so F'd up. WTH is going on?

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anyone with a brain would toss their preseasons expectations out the window when the qb gets hurt And you have to play freshman QB.

Brady would be lighting up the scoreboard w these guys Huh

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Your highly touted wonderboy isn't doing much with the Carolina Panthers and Terry Bridgewater and the passing game.... Look at the passing game stats. He's a prodigy all right. I give credit to who was the only one responsible and that's Joe Burrow and the 3 magnificent receivers. That's it in a nutshell.