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re: So JD Has The Second Best Season For A QB In LSU History, and Every Other Thread Is About

Posted on 12/5/22 at 10:50 am to
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
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Posted on 12/5/22 at 10:50 am to
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The second best season I've seen from an LSU QB was Rohan Davey in 2001.


This. Third is Mett in 2013.
Posted by da prophet
hammond, la
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 12/5/22 at 10:51 am to
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Why couldn't Daniels make that leap? I bet he could. I hope he comes back. Can't wait to see the improvement.

You really don’t get it. Daniels just finished year 4 as a starter, the improvement is pretty much done. The improvement is just beginning with Nuss.
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
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Posted on 12/5/22 at 10:51 am to
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Third is Mett in 2013.

Why?
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288577 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 10:52 am to
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So he got better throwing the football? You know, the main thing a QB is supposed to do. Those running yards are great until he hurts his ankle because he runs so much. Then you’re stuck with an average qb who has peaked as a passer, who can’t run full strength.



What a weird hill to die on. You can just say you were wrong and move on
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 12/5/22 at 10:54 am to
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The funny thing is, you go from Daniels to Nuss or Howard next year, you are taking a step back and everyone will really see the issues with the roster. Because while they go through growing pains, everything will take a step back. Then this place will really lose its marbles


The problem here is that in year 1 of BK rebuild Daniels was the right choice to maximize the result. The quandry is do you rip off the bandaid and dare to push the team to better effectiveness. JD was 75% of our offense this year. JD can be the guy next yr but the QB has to facilitate the full participation of the offense. This is like a point guard that does not generate assists and make everyone better.

If we go into next yr and run the same old QB centered offense then we will lose the interest and goodwill of the offensive skill players. JD, GN, or WH can choose to be that guy. We have ceiling limited our offense with the system we have now. Start today building tomorrow's system.
This post was edited on 12/5/22 at 10:56 am
Posted by Htownbayubengal
Houston
Member since Oct 2022
1406 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 10:56 am to
How many of those QBs started 4 years prior? I think that little nugget was missed by you. Also, how many of those QBs could actually throw downfield? I get that there are loyal supporters of JD on here, for various reasons, but if being objective he can't read a defense and can't throw accurately downfield. It got worse towards the end of the year as teams started scheming his limitations.
Posted by ForeverEllisHugh
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2016
16238 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 10:56 am to
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Why?


3K, 22:8, 2 1K WRs… it gets overshadowed because of course it’s the year our D finally falls off. Pun intended.
This post was edited on 12/5/22 at 10:58 am
Posted by Htownbayubengal
Houston
Member since Oct 2022
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Posted on 12/5/22 at 10:58 am to
I can say that JD isn't a good qb. I can also say that he runs the ball well.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288577 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 10:59 am to
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can say that JD isn't a good qb. I can also say that he runs the ball well.



I can say that doesn’t make sense
Posted by Sun God
Member since Jul 2009
50093 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 10:59 am to
How is that the 3rd best?
Posted by DCTXLA
Member since Jul 2022
3459 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:01 am to
Daniels definitely has limitations, particularly with his ability to read the defense and trust what he sees.

Nuss has his own issues in that department as well. I don’t think he’s truly shown he can read a defense either. The interception was a perfect example of that; the safety baited him and prayed he would try to throw that ball. I don’t know if he has too much trust in his arm or if he’s pre-determining where he’s going on some plays.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25600 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:08 am to
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What a weird hill to die on. You can just say you were wrong and move on


Rushing yards are inconsequential when talking about QB development. Are you fricking dense?
Posted by Vito Andolini
Member since Sep 2009
1879 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:15 am to
We can thank JD for his contributions to the program, but that doesn't mean we are simply supposed to ignore what all of our eyes have now seen, JD is a very limited passer, and Nuss is a gifted passer.

In the 21st century, teams that can throw the ball the most effectively, tend to win more games than teams that cannot.
Posted by mpwilging
Punta Gorda Isles, Florida
Member since Jan 2011
9594 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:17 am to
Your thread title is blatantly false!

FAKE news and bullshite, and doesn't deserve a response. Goodbye...
Posted by DCTXLA
Member since Jul 2022
3459 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:17 am to
You just responded to his thread though
This post was edited on 12/5/22 at 11:18 am
Posted by Basura Blanco
Member since Dec 2011
11457 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:20 am to
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He also got 50 more when ga played prevent the final minute of first half.



And Georgia played prevent for 80% of the second half. I hope Nuss starts the bowl game, but lets be accurate when comparing the two.
Posted by Lester Earl
3rd Ward
Member since Nov 2003
288577 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:21 am to
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Rushing yards are inconsequential when talking about QB development. Are you fricking dense?


Lol

Rushing touchdowns are inconsequential too, huh?


This is a clown discussion
This post was edited on 12/5/22 at 11:23 am
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20196 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:23 am to
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GetmorewithLes


Great post. I think that's where we're at. CBK is at a pivotal moment.
Posted by jnethe1
Pearland
Member since Dec 2012
17127 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:28 am to
Because we saw both QBs playing against the number one team in the country, and there was an obvious difference.
Posted by GeauxLSUGeaux
1 room down from Erin Andrews
Member since May 2004
25600 posts
Posted on 12/5/22 at 11:39 am to
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Lol Rushing touchdowns are inconsequential too, huh?


When it comes to passing? Yes. Nobody said the guy couldn’t run, or that he wasn’t the best option for us this year considering the OLine situation. But how the frick can you point to rushing stats whenever the knock on him, and what we are fricking talking about, is his passing ability or inability to read a defense? How many of those runs had a wide arse open receiver running down field he could have thrown to? There were plenty. Bringing up rushing stats when talking about him peaking as a passer is horse shite. Nobody brings up rushing yards when talking about a Receivers pass catching ability. It’s fricking asinine.
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