re: So, injuries closing the talent gap = LSU in trouble?

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and this dumb arse shite didn't sit around when we used to get our arse kicked all the time. Check out Miles record vs Meyer and Saban. Check out his record against anyone. The guy is a winner, and that can't be denied. We have lost 3 regular season games in like the last 30. He just needs to bring in someone and let them coach the offense.

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First off, I was around plenty when LSU sucked. I lived through multiple losing seasons through the 90s, and was at nearly everyone of those games.

Furthermore, Les has won ONE NC that he got a shot at based on a fluke. LSU may have been the best team that year, but no team needed more eff ups by other teams to win a title. I never said Les sucked, but to claim he is the best in the business makes you the dumb arse not me. Saban beat him when it counted and Meyers did too when it came to winning a title.

When has Les beaten either team in a championship year for them?

Against Meyer, Les won in:
2005 (Meyer's first year/rebuild)
2007 (Meyer's rebuild year after an NC and losing basically every starter on defense)
2010 (Meyers rebuilding year again)

Meyer on the other hand beat LSU when they had a championship caliber team talent-wise in 2006.

Against Saban, Les won in:
2007 (NC caliber team playing a rebuilding Bama team)
2010 (3-loss Bama team coming off an NC and losing basically its entire defense)
2011 (I'll give him credit, he beat Saban straight up here)

So 1 win when both teams were on the same level. Good to know.

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we got a ton of lucky plays at the right times and we were pretty much healthy all year. that shite ain't going to happen often

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Yea, last year the 2 fumbles UF had would've been returned for scores. Honestly, it seems like it's been a really long time since LSU has had a bad injury situation, unless I'm just forgetting something. We've been really lucky from that standpoint recently.

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2005 USC defense was awful. They put up points but no team with a quick strike offense will ever have a top 5-10 defense

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Oregon was 12th in scoring defense in 2010 when they went to the NCG. They were 1 in scoring offense. You also don't NEED a top 5-10 defense, numerically, when you can score every 3 minutes. It's like people think the point of the game is to keep your opponent from scoring, and not to, you know, outscore them.

Anyway, you don't have to want a quick-strike offense to wish that this team could put ANY points on the board consistently.

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Anyway, you don't have to want a quick-strike offense to wish that this team could put ANY points on the board consistently.

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yeah i don't get people bringing up WV or UO type offenses in these discussions

there's a HUGE gap in those offenses and wanting to score some offensive TDs against SEC opponents

they gave up 330 yards per game, if we did that then people would bitch about chavis' defense

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So LSU should win the National Championship every year? lol. This attitude is what is laughable. The fact that Miles has only won 1 national title in 7 years for you is what is funny. What if we fired him and went 6 and 6? Ever think about that? He just needs to make the same decision he did with Malveto about his own brand of offense.

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Where did I say LSU should win a title every year? I said in 2006 that LSU had the talent to win the NC. The only time Les beat Meyer or Saban with teams at equal levels was in the Bama game last year. In every other season, Les lost when it was even.

I didn't expect an NC in 2005, nor 2008, or 2009. I did feel 2010 could be a year assuming JJ had progressed, yet it was clear early on that team wasn't championship caliber. In 2011, I actually didn't expect it given everything that happened and that JJ and Lee had never shown much progression, but everything fell in place for LSU until the title game.

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Where did I say LSU should win a title every year? I said in 2006 that LSU had the talent to win the NC. The only time Les beat Meyer or Saban with teams at equal levels was in the Bama game last year. In every other season, Les lost when it was even.

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Your saying that the only time that we beat Meyer or Saban, they aren't on our level. The fact that they aren't on our level those years should tell you that Miles is pretty damn good. We had the talent to win the NC in 06, 07, and 11 under Miles. He won it in 07, lost to probably the best NC team this decade IMO in 2011 ( a team we did beat) and we shite the bed against Auburn in 06 or we probably would have had a shot that year too.

Where did I say Les is a bad coach? Where did I say he's not an elite recruiter?

Those teams from Bama and Florida that we beat were getting depleted because they won titles and sent tons of players to the league. It wasn't normal attrition.

Criticizing Les' in-game coaching doesn't equal claiming Les is a horrible coach. He simply is nowhere near those two when it comes to X's and O's. Plain and simple.

It makes too much sense. Its over MoRon's head.