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re: So I guess Alleva doesn't get credit for the Wade hire

Posted on 3/26/17 at 7:08 am to
Posted by semjase
New Smyrna Beach FL
Member since May 2014
14271 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 7:08 am to
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who the frick didn't give alleva credit? We still hate him but he made a good hire
Don't kid yourselves, Eddie Nunez did most of the advance scouting and leg work on the WW hire. JA just got the the credit.................
Posted by Hat Tricks
Member since Oct 2003
28858 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 8:13 am to
He hasn't coached a single game at LSU yet. Pump the brakes. But hey, I guess we're undefeated.
Posted by Suntiger
STG or BR or somewhere else
Member since Feb 2007
35431 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 8:13 am to
Alleva's Bad:
Screwing up firing Les Miles in 2015
Screwing up the football coaching search in 2016
Allowing the basketball team to bow out of postseason play in 2016
Getting worked over by the Florida AD and SEC in 2016
Screwing up the hiring of Softball coach Pat Murphy.
Hiring Trent Johnson.
Hiring Johnny Jones.

Alleva's Good:
Hiring Beth Torina
Hiring of Will Wade TBD

So OP, do you consider Alleva to be a good AD?
Posted by danfraz
San Antonio TX
Member since Apr 2008
24550 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 8:21 am to
I must have missed where Wade had a winning season at LSU


plus the following NCAA bid, sweet 16 run and final four bid. Wade has already accomplished this I guess


Damn LSU has some fricking morons cheering for them
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
113100 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 9:29 am to
LSU is making boat loads of money. Most everyone is excited about the football & basketball coaches. There's plenty of time left for baseball to get right. Alleva may not be popular and has made a few mistakes, but I fail to see why he's a bad AD.
Posted by Ponchy Tiger
Ponchatoula
Member since Aug 2004
48667 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 9:51 am to
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Screwing up the hiring of Softball coach Pat Murphy.


I don't blame Alleva for that one. Murphy was blackmailed by Alabama to stay there.
Posted by dsides
Member since Jan 2013
6150 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 9:58 am to
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but I fail to see why he's a bad AD.


See suntiger post above
Posted by Skillet
Member since Aug 2006
113100 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:12 am to
Alleva's Bad:
Screwing up firing Les Miles in 2015---It worked out eventually.
Screwing up the football coaching search in 2016---He did not. Is O a for sure bad choice?
Allowing the basketball team to bow out of postseason play in 2016---That was a dysfunctional team, and needed to call it quits. Jones should have been fired then. Yes, that was an Alleva bad
Getting worked over by the Florida AD and SEC in 2016--Not really Joe's fault. SEC commissioner is the one to blame.
Screwing up the hiring of Softball coach Pat Murphy--- He didn't screw that up. shite happens
Hiring Trent Johnson.---Most thought it was a good hire at the time.
Hiring Johnny Jones.---I concur. But still though, everyone was fired up about last season with Ben

Again, a few mistakes. Nothing earth shaking and Joe seemingly has fixed them.
Posted by Concerned One
Shreveport
Member since Nov 2014
97 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:23 am to
I do not agree with some of the things he has done, but I believe it's all political, as is everything now a days. He is in place to handle the financial aspects, but when it comes to hiring and firing he is more of just a face for TAF and the big boosters
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
61233 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:32 am to
I hate these threads and all of this stupid daily back and forth bullshite
Posted by STRIPES
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
4771 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 10:38 am to
Dude, you know this is the Rant and people here would find a reason to hate Santa Clause and I know Santa Clause, Santa Clause is a friend of mine. Joe Alleva is no Santa Clause.
Posted by Dignan
Member since Sep 2005
13265 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 11:18 am to
quote:

who the frick didn't give alleva credit? We still hate him but he made a good hire



Let's not jump the gun. There's cause for optimism, and we hope this turns out to be a good hire. However, we honestly don't know yet.

If he turns out to be good, props to Alleva. If not, he deserves the blame as well.
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
8313 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 11:37 am to
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I mean according to the Rant he is the worst AD. Does this mean we got Wade in spite of Alleva? One thing I do know if the Wade hire god forbid goes south,Alleva will be the first to be blamed.



Hired Trent Johnson.

Hired Johnny jones.

Hired Nikki Fargas.

Let miles twist in the wind for a month and--despite leaking info to the press--couldn't control the story at the end of 2015. resulting in pro-Miles sentiment and Alleva botching the firing.

Finally fired miles, only to botch the search for a replacement.

Couldn't close the deal with Herman and didn't even TRY to persuade him to come to BR after UT got involved.

Settled on a "fit" hire with our D-Line coach.

Fires Jones and decries the idea of finding the "right fit" to replace him.

Oh, and he botched the handling of the UF hurricane situation. Despite doing everything correctly and being in the right, LSU was seen nationally as the bad guy.

Alleva is a fricking joke. The hire of a men's bball coach doesn't change that.
Posted by lsusteve1
Member since Dec 2004
45810 posts
Posted on 3/26/17 at 11:55 am to
quote:

I mean according to the Rant he is the worst AD. Does this mean we got Wade in spite of Alleva? One thing I do know if the Wade hire god forbid goes south,Alleva will be the first to be blamed.



I'll give credit on this hire. He still is an AWFUL AD.
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