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Posted on 4/12/10 at 4:33 pm to cameroncrazy2304
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I'm going to call these last two years Les miles showing his own skills at coaching....
+1
For anybody thinking this post is meant to be an endorsement of CLM's great coaching skills for the last 2 years and on into the Spring Game 2010, please look up the definition of sarcasm. I am very willing to be proven wrong, but only CLM and LSU can do that in the '10 season. Wishful thinking posts and 'on paper LSU has as much talent as...' posts on the part of various CLM booster club rantards just won't cut it for me. I want to see results.
This post was edited on 4/12/10 at 10:06 pm
Posted on 4/12/10 at 5:34 pm to JawjaTigah
I think LSU has a better team this year but has a similar or worse record 9-3/8-4. I think the "fluke" part of last year was that we had as good of a record as we did considering how badly LSU played on offense. LSU could've easily lost to Arkansas and Miss St (and yes we could've beaten Ole Miss and Alabama but we were outplayed in both) making our record as bad as 7-5.
This post was edited on 4/12/10 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 4/12/10 at 5:37 pm to JawjaTigah
We have a lot of talent all over the field, but so does Alabama and Florida. And they have half one major thing we dont got.......Halway decent qb play assuming Brantly is arse godd as they say.
Posted on 4/12/10 at 7:46 pm to Tigerdeck83
We were talking about this the other day and all agreed that our BCS championships were a combination of some consistent but not perfect play and some plain ole luck. So yes talent wise we have the recipe.
Posted on 4/12/10 at 10:32 pm to LSU Red24
i am also one of the few.
but it's gonna be fun to watch the ranturds jump on this post.
but it's gonna be fun to watch the ranturds jump on this post.
Posted on 4/12/10 at 11:05 pm to LSU Red24
With the talent we have its possible and the SEC West (the entire conference for that matter) is up in the air so if LSU can win the SEC, depending on their overall record they could very well get into the NC game. Would I bet the house on it? No.
Posted on 4/13/10 at 5:28 am to Big Fat
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Im going to be confident in this team and this coach until I have a reason not to be.
This.
Posted on 4/13/10 at 10:14 pm to Dalosaqy
Yes I think it's possible. Biggest question mark isn't a single position but overall team chemistry - getting the right combo n the field.
I'm pulling for Les but I don't think he conveys an overarching plan of what kind of team we're gonna be (sort of like Brady in hoops). His staff and hires seems to be sort of a hodge-podge and now he seems to be just putting out the fires.
I'm pulling for Les but I don't think he conveys an overarching plan of what kind of team we're gonna be (sort of like Brady in hoops). His staff and hires seems to be sort of a hodge-podge and now he seems to be just putting out the fires.
Posted on 4/13/10 at 11:27 pm to AlwysATgr
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His staff and hires seems to be sort of a hodge-podge and now he seems to be just putting out the fires.
Hodge Podge?
Are you kidding?
Chavis, who was one of the top DC in the country for >15 years and was offered $800 per year by UGA a few months ago is hodge-podge?
Wilson, one of the best HS coaches in LA before going to UT AND a known PHENOM recruiter is hodge-podge?
Billy Gonzales, thought to be the heir apparent OC at Florida was hodge-podge?
At the time Crowton was considered an offensive genius, he hasn’t met expectations and the Co-DC thing didn’t work out but then got fixed immediately.
Other than that Miles has a phenomenal hiring/mentoring record for assistants.
The perspective on the RANT is a bona-fide trip!
Posted on 4/13/10 at 11:33 pm to SouthernMan
Wasn't LSU in the NC talk going into the Bama game in 2009?
Posted on 4/13/10 at 11:52 pm to SouthernMan
So what is the identity that Les gives to our team? For my part, I'm not sure but everyone knows what Patterson is about at TCU, Saban, Meyer, etc.
What I mean by hodge-podge is a jumbled mixture. Whether Chavis is "one of the top DC's in the country for >15 years" or not is subject to debate.
But my point is does Chavis fit into Les's overarching vision? Consider the differences between Peilini (pressure) and Chavis (bend-don't break). Those are two different approaches to D and yet Les hired them both.
What I mean by hodge-podge is a jumbled mixture. Whether Chavis is "one of the top DC's in the country for >15 years" or not is subject to debate.
But my point is does Chavis fit into Les's overarching vision? Consider the differences between Peilini (pressure) and Chavis (bend-don't break). Those are two different approaches to D and yet Les hired them both.
This post was edited on 4/13/10 at 11:54 pm
Posted on 4/14/10 at 12:49 am to AlwysATgr
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So what is the identity that Les gives to our team?
The identity has been lost (for some) in the last two years but the mischaractherizations of why and how are just laughable.
People that never accepted Les (mostly because they never got over Saban's exit) have decided they hate him and really don't deal with reality.
Prior to 08/09 Mile's identity was a ballsy coach that would take advantage of opportunites and rely on the playmakers he had.
Exit RP - Exit BoP, Unintended consequences = 08 sucked.
D problem fixed - Chavis one of the best DC's in CFB last 15 years NOT debatable.
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(bend-don't break).
Complete misnomer, not his plan just what he had to deal with in his first year with a semi-ineffective Dline. This year he will command a dominating defense that will be near or at the top in the country - mark it down.
09 improved in most areas but the OLine was small and undermanned (fixxed now) and QB play was still questionable at times.
Now based on a single practice (called a spring game) people have decided that JJ can't tie his own cleats.
Maybe he will not be a heisman candidate but with a better line, a true running game and a year under his belt there is a pretty good chance he will be better.
If he is we win the NC, if he just doesn't get worse we are still a 10 win NYD or BCS Bowl Team.
It's ALL good - Geaux Tigers!!
Posted on 4/14/10 at 12:50 am to LSU Red24
We have a shot. Better than 1-out-of-30 imho.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 12:56 am to Doc Fenton
I see it being very difficult this year with 7 possible games to lose with
UNC
West Va
Bama
Auburn
Florida
Ole Miss
Arkansas
plus a 8th difficult game with a rematch with Florida or playing South Carolina in the sec championship.
UNC
West Va
Bama
Auburn
Florida
Ole Miss
Arkansas
plus a 8th difficult game with a rematch with Florida or playing South Carolina in the sec championship.
This post was edited on 4/14/10 at 12:57 am
Posted on 4/14/10 at 1:00 am to KingwoodLsuFan
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I see it being very difficult this year with 7 possible games to lose
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plus a 8th difficult game with a rematch with Florida or playing South Carolina in the sec championship.
Has a 5-7 Team ever made it to a Championship Game?
This post was edited on 4/14/10 at 1:03 am
Posted on 4/14/10 at 1:04 am to SouthernMan
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SouthernMan
Love your optimism but will continue to disagree on a couple of things:
1)
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Prior to 08/09 Mile's identity was a ballsy coach . . .
Someone will to have refresh my memory but there wasn't much in '05 or '06 that could be considered "ballsy." That reputation arose almost entirely from a handful of plays in '07 (all of which I loved). Moreover, you cannot just toss-out the last two seasons (40% of the data). They contribute to the non-identity I'm suggesting.
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(bend-don't break)
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Complete misnomer, not his plan just what he had to deal with in his first year with a semi-ineffective Dline.
Our '09 D was vintage Chavis - very much in line with his body of work at Tenn. There's more to the "3rd & Chavis" than just a bunch of disgruntled Tenn fans. He had more talent to work with last year than only a handful of DC's (Texas, Bama, and UF) - compare how many players from D got invited to the NFL Combine. Lack of talent ain't the problem.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 1:05 am to SouthernMan
I'm saying with our schedule we have 2 losses at best. Which means we would probably have to jump a one loss team to go to the national championship. Plus needing a win over Bama because I see them losing 2 sec games at the most.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 1:14 am to AlwysATgr
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Our '09 D was vintage Chavis - very much in line with his body of work at Tenn. There's more to the "3rd & Chavis" than just a bunch of disgruntled Tenn fans.
More like an internet 'urban' myth.
I am related to a bunch of diehard Vols and they LOVE Chavis.
I've discussed the 'third and Chavis' moniker and they thought it was something a gump made up.
UT fans (not the internet snipes but true UT fans) have no ideal what third and Chavis is supposed to mean.
His body of work includes SEVERAL years of the best defense in the SEC and being a MAJOR part of UTs National Championship.
Chavis IS one of the best in the country and UGA ofered him close to a million a year to come revamp their D.
Trust me, we'll be glad he is not greedy!
Posted on 4/14/10 at 1:18 am to SouthernMan
I think last year Chavis was to afraid of giving up a big play with a lack of a pass rush. He didn't believe his corners could lock down receivers long enough for his pass rush to sack or pressure the qb.
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