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re: So am I one of the few people
Posted on 4/14/10 at 1:29 am to JawjaTigah
Posted on 4/14/10 at 1:29 am to JawjaTigah
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For anybody thinking this post is meant to be an endorsement of CLM's great coaching skills for the last 2 years and on into the Spring Game 2010, please look up the definition of sarcasm. I am very willing to be proven wrong, but only CLM and LSU can do that in the '10 season. Wishful thinking posts and 'on paper LSU has as much talent as...' posts on the part of various CLM booster club rantards just won't cut it for me. I want to see results.
thanks for clearing that up....the "+1" added to the previous post wasn't enough.
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Posted on 4/14/10 at 1:29 am to SouthernMan
No - the 3rd and Chavis is statistically born out over his years at Tenn. And it was borne out again this year. It's not all/always bad but it is what it is.
We conveniently excuse it on poor DL play. But if our DL was air-dropped into TCU or Tuscaloosa (I respect Saban's approach to D but there's no love loss for him), we would all be amazed at how much better they were playing. Again - ain't so much talent as it is approach.
I couldn't care less how much UGA offered him. I would be surprised if those playing the best D in CFB would even consider him for DC.
Les is ok with either Bo or Chief (even though their styles are so different) because IMO Les has no vision of what kind of team he wants to field.
We conveniently excuse it on poor DL play. But if our DL was air-dropped into TCU or Tuscaloosa (I respect Saban's approach to D but there's no love loss for him), we would all be amazed at how much better they were playing. Again - ain't so much talent as it is approach.
I couldn't care less how much UGA offered him. I would be surprised if those playing the best D in CFB would even consider him for DC.
Les is ok with either Bo or Chief (even though their styles are so different) because IMO Les has no vision of what kind of team he wants to field.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 1:32 am to AlwysATgr
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No - the 3rd and Chavis is statistically born out over his years at Tenn. And it was borne out again this year. It's not all/always bad but it is what it is.
We conveniently excuse it on poor DL play. But if our DL was air-dropped into TCU or Tuscaloosa (I respect Saban's approach to D but there's no love loss for him), we would all be amazed at how much better they were playing. Again - ain't so much talent as it is approach.
I couldn't care less how much UGA offered him. I would be surprised if those playing the best D in CFB would even consider him for DC.
Les is ok with either Bo or Chief (even though their styles are so different) because IMO Les has no vision of what kind of team he wants to field.
what's more important....yards or points
Posted on 4/14/10 at 1:34 am to Choctaw
less possessions means less points for your offense.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 1:37 am to KingwoodLsuFan
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less possessions means less points for your offense.
can't argue with that...but Chavis had to completely turn around not only a defensive set but a mindset....in one year...and i say he did a pretty good job. 11th in the country. Do you remember how bad the D was in '08?
Posted on 4/14/10 at 1:38 am to LSU Red24
I actually think the QB situation will improve and one of JJ and JL will step up. But lost in this QB debate is all the other question marks on this team. The Oline will not become spectacular overnight. The D line isn't great at pressuring the QB and lately even plugging the holes. And the WRs, though highly touted, are young and inexperienced. And I am still assuming Chavis LBs will be SEC caliber.
Three or four fundamental question marks. A couple too many to be in the NC hunt.
Three or four fundamental question marks. A couple too many to be in the NC hunt.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 1:39 am to Choctaw
Points - but if you're suggesting they're unrelated I would disagree.
We could pick a data set and I'm sure there would be an exception now-n-then but teams with large differences in more yards and ToP usually have more points.
We could pick a data set and I'm sure there would be an exception now-n-then but teams with large differences in more yards and ToP usually have more points.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 1:43 am to Choctaw
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can't argue with that...but Chavis had to completely turn around not only a defensive set but a mindset....in one year...and i say he did a pretty good job. 11th in the country. Do you remember how bad the D was in '08?
In 08 it was a very bad aggressive defense. Chavis was a little to tenative for my liking but hey it's a hell of a lot better then what we had before. My thing is if you have the talent and scheme to pull off an aggressive defense you should do it.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 1:45 am to Choctaw
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what's more important....yards or points
TOP is important too. The D restricts in points but stays on the field way too long taking away from the offense's time on the field. It matters.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 1:50 am to KingwoodLsuFan
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In 08 it was a very bad aggressive defense. Chavis was a little to tenative for my liking but hey it's a hell of a lot better then what we had before. My thing is if you have the talent and scheme to pull off an aggressive defense you should do it.
They were alot more aggressive last year than in '08....but it takes longer than one season to get away from the Malleveto defense. Plus, Alem (who i thought would have a breakout year) seemed to overrun alot of plays which kinda screwed the secondary at times. With that said...they were still 11th in defense and i think they'll be better this year. just my opinion.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 1:53 am to Choctaw
Defense in 09 was decent if not great. The part that needs improvement, more than d line pressure on QB, is plugging the running lanes. I can't believe how even bad teams could run on us last year. The difference between 2 and 5 losses will be the d line and not necessarily the QBs imo.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 1:53 am to Choctaw
in terms of aggressiveness I was referring to the secondary. He would try to blitz but really no one on the d line forced a double team which made it easy to pick up the blitz plus the qb could keep hitting comeback routes
Posted on 4/14/10 at 1:58 am to Choctaw
As is evident from my posts I'm not a fan of Chavis's approach this far. But in his defense he worked wonders with our LB's, gave us some great performances (UGA, UF, AU, 1st half Arky), and gave us a chance to win every game.
I think we'll be improved some on D but I don't think there's going to be this great upshot in talent on DL.
And I hope I'm right in this since it sounds like Chavis really wants to put a lot of speed on D and take a more aggressive tack.
I think we'll be improved some on D but I don't think there's going to be this great upshot in talent on DL.
And I hope I'm right in this since it sounds like Chavis really wants to put a lot of speed on D and take a more aggressive tack.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 2:00 am to AlwysATgr
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No - the 3rd and Chavis is statistically born out over his years at Tenn
You have no ideal what you are talking about if you beleive that. In NINE of Chavis 14 years at UT he had a top three defense statistically.
In 97 his defense held opposing offenses to something like 230YPG and was one of the stingiest in the country.
Then in 98 his defense was the MAIN reason UT won a national title with a 'TMartin' led Offense.
He won The AOTY award in '06 and his defense held LSU's most potent offense ever to one TD in the 07 SECCG.
His Career record says he is one of the best and the 3rd and Chavis crap is made up RANT paranoia.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 2:01 am to siliconvalleytiger
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Defense in 09 was decent if not great. The part that needs improvement, more than d line pressure on QB, is plugging the running lanes. I can't believe how even bad teams could run on us last year. The difference between 2 and 5 losses will be the d line and not necessarily the QBs imo.
i agree...some teams seemed to run on us at will last year. One thing that worries me is that, while i think Mingo is going to be one hell of a player, im not sure he's big enough to stop the run. If he's only put in for situational plays then i hope we have someone to help out against the run. Do you think we have a DE that can step up against the run?
Posted on 4/14/10 at 2:03 am to KingwoodLsuFan
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in terms of aggressiveness I was referring to the secondary. He would try to blitz but really no one on the d line forced a double team which made it easy to pick up the blitz plus the qb could keep hitting comeback routes
I agree...Alem overrunning plays didnt help either.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 2:06 am to Choctaw
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I agree...Alem overrunning plays didnt help either
I think Alem might have the record for being in the backfield the most as a d end in college
Posted on 4/14/10 at 2:14 am to KingwoodLsuFan
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I think Alem might have the record for being in the backfield the most as a d end in college
I know...i was disappointed. I predicted him to be one of the best DE's last year. I think he had around 8 sacks in '08 as a backup.
Posted on 4/14/10 at 2:18 am to SouthernMan
Here's a link to the 2007 SECCG box score: LINK. You can judge for yourself how good on D Tenn played that game. (And one shouldn't overlook the fact that Flynn was out and Perrilloux played the entire way).
There are stats available for Chavis on 3rd down (I'll let someone else have the honors of looking them up as I'm too tired).
There are stats available for Chavis on 3rd down (I'll let someone else have the honors of looking them up as I'm too tired).
Posted on 4/14/10 at 2:26 am to AlwysATgr
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Here's a link to the 2007 SECCG box score: LINK. You can judge for yourself how good on D Tenn played that game. (And one shouldn't overlook the fact that Flynn was out and Perrilloux played the entire way).
There are stats available for Chavis on 3rd down (I'll let someone else have the honors of looking them up as I'm too tired).
I'm surprised LSU only won by 7 looking at those stats. Tennessee barely had the ball in that game.
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