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So after this year's debacle, does the BCS put a push on playoffs?
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:44 am
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:44 am
How many BCS blunders have their been since the BCS was put into place?
18
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:46 am to Sarge
No! The media absolutely loves this mess! It gives them lots BS to fill dead air space!
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:46 am to Sarge
Only if LSU wins. Everybody hates LSU
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:47 am to Sarge
Louisville, Cincy, Rutgers, or WV getting into the Orange Bowl or something is the ultimate travesty 
Maybe the AQ conference champ requirements will be changed.
+1 is possible, but a true playoff will never happen imo
Maybe the AQ conference champ requirements will be changed.
+1 is possible, but a true playoff will never happen imo
This post was edited on 11/21/11 at 9:48 am
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:47 am to Sarge
Who says it's a debacle?
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:47 am to Boh
How does a playoff fix this year?
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:48 am to Sarge
quote:
How many BCS blunders have their been since the BCS was put into place?
I think it has crowned the best team the champion the vast majority of the time.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:48 am to Sarge
BCS is right. LSU is #1, Bama is #2.
frick the rest, they're irrelevant.
frick the rest, they're irrelevant.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:49 am to Sarge
Why would anyone want a playoff after THIS? The games were dramatic and IMPORTANT this weekend. With a playoff...not nearly so much.
Besides, the ONLY purpose of the BCS is to really match up 1 v 2. And, it is ONLY needed when there is not a certainty about which 2 teams are those.
In other words, you only need a formula if there is controversy.
The only year that I ever reference "after the fact" with discussion is 2004 (when Auburn was undefeated). Other than that, there is tremendous discussion leading up to the BCS CG each year. Then....nothing.
i would not change a thing.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:50 am to Tiger Authority
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How does a playoff fix this year?
Thats a good question, if anything this year is even more of a reason against a playoff. A 4 team playoff and 3 teams from the same conference, wouldn't go over well.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:50 am to Boh
The thing no one is talking about is that one fo the current top three teams (LSU, Bama, Arky) are not going to a BCS game. And there is also a strong possibility that no SEC team is in the Sugar Bowl, which I know they will hate.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:50 am to Sarge
I don't see a blunder at this point. The two best teams are 1-2.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:53 am to Tiger Authority
The BCS gets beat up because they do a lot of sh!t they weren't designed for.
They choose bowl pairings based off of them. They decide tiebreakers in Divisional Conferences. They even impact conference realignment heavily.
What the BCS was designed to do was to make sure #1 vs #2 play for the National Title.
The media loves to beat up on the BCS, but the system has worked remarkably well in doing just that during its run. The media and its elephant-like memory forget what CFB was prior to the BCS' arrival on the scene, but imperfect wasn't the word for it, I assure you.
I think the BCS will do a few things from here on out.
They will cut the umblicial from the BCS Bowls as they are currently constituted. They will drop their association with the Rose, Fiesta, Orange, & Sugar Bowls.
They will make themselves about one game, & probably auction it off. That's all they want to be about. Revealing the complete rankings may also go away, beyond a select few folks. They may merely reveal the Top 10 or Top 5, & help do away from that kind of thing.
I also think that they will drop the 2 school max requirement if they do keep some sort've association with the bowls, because at least one SEC school's gonna get screwed royally this year as a result.
The conference as a whole will get screwed out of member shares of that 3rd spot in the BCS, as well.
But folks forget how imperfect the bowl system was before the BCS' arrival. They also forget that the BCS is designed solely to give us 1 vs 2. Anything after that is not their concern, ultimately.
They choose bowl pairings based off of them. They decide tiebreakers in Divisional Conferences. They even impact conference realignment heavily.
What the BCS was designed to do was to make sure #1 vs #2 play for the National Title.
The media loves to beat up on the BCS, but the system has worked remarkably well in doing just that during its run. The media and its elephant-like memory forget what CFB was prior to the BCS' arrival on the scene, but imperfect wasn't the word for it, I assure you.
I think the BCS will do a few things from here on out.
They will cut the umblicial from the BCS Bowls as they are currently constituted. They will drop their association with the Rose, Fiesta, Orange, & Sugar Bowls.
They will make themselves about one game, & probably auction it off. That's all they want to be about. Revealing the complete rankings may also go away, beyond a select few folks. They may merely reveal the Top 10 or Top 5, & help do away from that kind of thing.
I also think that they will drop the 2 school max requirement if they do keep some sort've association with the bowls, because at least one SEC school's gonna get screwed royally this year as a result.
The conference as a whole will get screwed out of member shares of that 3rd spot in the BCS, as well.
But folks forget how imperfect the bowl system was before the BCS' arrival. They also forget that the BCS is designed solely to give us 1 vs 2. Anything after that is not their concern, ultimately.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 9:53 am to Sarge
I kinda disagree with the playoffs route. The great thing about college football is that every game matters. The greatest games every season are the ones when some underdog knocks an undefeated NC favorite team. That's what makes every week exciting in college football. I'm a big NFL fan, and winning or losing in the regular season just doesnt carry 1/10th of the emotion of winning or losing in college football.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:00 am to maburu2
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I'm a big NFL fan, and winning or losing in the regular season just doesnt carry 1/10th of the emotion of winning or losing in college football.
That's the truth, but I really don't think a playoff would water down the regular season much. You couldn't lose more than 2 games and be seriously considered for the playoff. As far as I'm concerned, college football is still about a regular season championship. It's just so different from other sports.
If you think emotioin is the most important thing, can you imagine something like an LSU/USC or LSU/Oklahoma playoff matchup at one of the team's stadiums? That would blow most regular season games out of the water
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:03 am to maburu2
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I kinda disagree with the playoffs route. The great thing about college football is that every game matters. The greatest games every season are the ones when some underdog knocks an undefeated NC favorite team. That's what makes every week exciting in college football. I'm a big NFL fan, and winning or losing in the regular season just doesnt carry 1/10th of the emotion of winning or losing in college football.
I also look at it like this: In college football, when your team doesn't reach the goals it set out for itself, its pretty easy to know why, and you probably know the moment it happens, like when Karnell Hatcher destroys his own teammate last year at Arky.
In the NFL, when a team goes 10-6 and misses the playoffs because of a tiebreaker with another team, what do you look at? You probably didn't even know for 5 of those losses that it would end up costing the team 2 months later. You get mad for 10 minutes and then go on with your day. Hell, at 10-6, a team is 2 games from being .500. Screw playoffs, they suck.
ETA: Hell the eventual Superbowl Champion Saints started 13-0 and then lost 3 straight games and it was no big deal at all.
This post was edited on 11/21/11 at 10:05 am
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:04 am to maburu2
Only Blunder so far was Auburn in 04. So that's pretty amazing when you think this is the what 14th year? And to be honest if Oklahoma had just showed up in that game no one outside of Auburn would even argue that one too much.
What they need to stop doing is having BCS rankings every week starting in week 8. The purpose of the BCS is to have the right two teams at the END of the season. We aren't there yet.
First ranking should be the week before the conf championship games and then the next week the final ranking should come out that determines the final.
But they won't, cuz people love drama and the BCS causes drama from the moment it is announced until the start of the BCSCG. Drives ratings. Oh well
I don't want it changed. I do think that it sucks dick that Bama is gonna waltz their way into the title game, but to be honest it's not their fault. None of these other pretenders wanted to show up and play like a real football team the last few weeks so that's how it is. It is really hypocritical to sit here and bemoan a system that allowed us to play for the championship with two losses.
I will only get upset if LSU gets upended in the SECCG v GA and somehow misses out on the championship game while BAMA goes.
If we lose to Ark, then we don't deserve to go to the championship game anyway.
Just my two cents.
What they need to stop doing is having BCS rankings every week starting in week 8. The purpose of the BCS is to have the right two teams at the END of the season. We aren't there yet.
First ranking should be the week before the conf championship games and then the next week the final ranking should come out that determines the final.
But they won't, cuz people love drama and the BCS causes drama from the moment it is announced until the start of the BCSCG. Drives ratings. Oh well
I don't want it changed. I do think that it sucks dick that Bama is gonna waltz their way into the title game, but to be honest it's not their fault. None of these other pretenders wanted to show up and play like a real football team the last few weeks so that's how it is. It is really hypocritical to sit here and bemoan a system that allowed us to play for the championship with two losses.
I will only get upset if LSU gets upended in the SECCG v GA and somehow misses out on the championship game while BAMA goes.
If we lose to Ark, then we don't deserve to go to the championship game anyway.
Just my two cents.
This post was edited on 11/21/11 at 10:06 am
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:08 am to maburu2
I lot of the replies have given the same sentiment to the OP that I have....
What debacle???
I'll say that in its existence so far with only a few exceptions the BCS has gotten it right...and even those cases it wasn't clear cut the wrong decision was made.
I hate to say it, but assuming we win our next two, and Alabama wins, I think the system gets it right with the two best teams...even if it means a rematch.
What debacle???
I'll say that in its existence so far with only a few exceptions the BCS has gotten it right...and even those cases it wasn't clear cut the wrong decision was made.
I hate to say it, but assuming we win our next two, and Alabama wins, I think the system gets it right with the two best teams...even if it means a rematch.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:09 am to Oyster
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No! The media absolutely loves this mess! It gives them lots BS to fill dead air space!
this
... and LSU wins it outright anyway!
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:16 am to TriumphTiger
They need to tweak a few things...
1)eliminate or tweak AQ conference winner requirements so a #16 or #18 UConn team doesn't stink it up.
2)let more than 2 teams from each conference have ability to go to a BCS bowl.
3)possibly have a +1 game.
If they eliminate BCS bowl tie-ins and determine only the 1-2 game this is a step backwards, in my opinion. Rose and Sugar and Fiesta will go back to old conference tie-ins, and non-AQ schools will be hosed.
1)eliminate or tweak AQ conference winner requirements so a #16 or #18 UConn team doesn't stink it up.
2)let more than 2 teams from each conference have ability to go to a BCS bowl.
3)possibly have a +1 game.
If they eliminate BCS bowl tie-ins and determine only the 1-2 game this is a step backwards, in my opinion. Rose and Sugar and Fiesta will go back to old conference tie-ins, and non-AQ schools will be hosed.
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