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re: Sick of people bashing a true sophomore , 1st yr starter on a pro-style O.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 7:34 am to Cs
Posted on 1/22/16 at 7:34 am to Cs
quote:Did we watch the same game? Yea we got humiliated but McCarron damn sure didn't torch us.
A.J. McCarron's sophomore season - 66.8% completions, 2634 yards, 147.3 rating, led team to a national title while shredding our best defense under Miles.
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Posted on 1/22/16 at 8:14 am to kmcarabante
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The lost the best QB in Bama's history.. and managed to survive and win a championship with outcasts under center
That would be Ken Stabler.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 8:36 am to kmcarabante
I think many people don't realize that Harris played from the Bama game to the end of the season with a hernia that needed surgery. I don't think anyone would play 100% with that.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 8:39 am to atltiger6487
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A bit misleading. Although Sims and Coker were seniors, both were first year starters and neither had taken any meaningful snaps. And Sims was under a brand new OC
This is what concerns me most. Obviously, the coaching mentality of LSU vs Bama is in their favor, but taking DB's and in ONE YEAR developing them into contending QB's & game planning ways to put them in the best position to succeed....after reading your post, it elevated the chasm between coaching advantage into another stratosphere.
Can we hire Jon Gruden as our QB-whisperer? Just...:something .....
This post was edited on 1/22/16 at 8:40 am
Posted on 1/22/16 at 8:41 am to AjaxFury
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but taking DB's and in ONE YEAR developing them into contending QB's
Alabama has never done this.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 8:44 am to kmcarabante
Agree about being sick of BH bashing. But the staff put BH in a situation that made it difficult for him to succeed. When #7 couldn't get going, the o continued to be ground and pound on 1st and 2nd down and throw on 3rd and long. Watch the Clemson O in the championship game. Lots of short to intermediate routes, spread the field, giving Watson the chance to run or throw.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 8:46 am to Jwsinsport
Couldn't agree more, coaching seems to be the problem, not personnel. I should say, coaching and scheme on the offensive side seems to be a bigger problem that personnel.
This post was edited on 1/22/16 at 8:51 am
Posted on 1/22/16 at 9:01 am to LSU_Smash_the_West
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Miles and Cam open up the playbook a little more he will break SOME LSU RECORDS!! And win us a NATTY!!
A fine example for subject of OP.
Rantards illogically put the cart before horse thinking the O can be "opened up" with subpar QB play.
When knowledgeable posters retort QB inaccuracy limits playsheet choices and strangle the offense, it's seen as bashing.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 10:02 am to Hooligan's Ghost
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JaMarcus Russell? was the first pick in the draft. I don't think that is a valid comparison. I hope it turns out to be, but that doesn't seem like a good analogy
Are fricking kidding me? So now comparing QBs at similar points in their COLLEGE career who both had strong arms but lacked touch as underclassmen isn't a valid comparison. Good grief you are dumb.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 10:08 am to atltiger6487
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A bit misleading. Although Sims and Coker were seniors, both were first year starters and neither had taken any meaningful snaps. And Sims was under a brand new OC.
There is nothing misleading about what I said. First off, both Jacob Coker & Blake Sims had 4 years of being able to learn behind the scenes in pro style systems before having to play. Secondly, people act like these two were all world, Heisman winning quarterbacks. They were slightly above average UPPERCLASS QBs, dipshit.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 10:21 am to kmcarabante
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The lost the best QB in Bama's history.. and managed to survive and win a championship with outcasts under center
Joe Willie Namath?
Posted on 1/22/16 at 10:24 am to kmcarabante
Love Harris. The talent is there. We have seen countless glimpses of it in games.
The one criticism I have is that he can miss the intermediate/short passes and I think that is due to the fact he is still a little anxious when playing. He throws the ball a lot harder than he should when making those throws.
I think a lot of good can come from another year of experience and growing (both physically and mentally) into the position. Just like Mettenberger, I look to see an improvement in his play and increased confidence in the coaching staff to let him throw more and run the read option.
I'm cautiously optimistic we'll have a better plan of attack on offense next season similar to what we saw in 2013.
The one criticism I have is that he can miss the intermediate/short passes and I think that is due to the fact he is still a little anxious when playing. He throws the ball a lot harder than he should when making those throws.
I think a lot of good can come from another year of experience and growing (both physically and mentally) into the position. Just like Mettenberger, I look to see an improvement in his play and increased confidence in the coaching staff to let him throw more and run the read option.
I'm cautiously optimistic we'll have a better plan of attack on offense next season similar to what we saw in 2013.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 10:33 am to OKtiger
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Love Harris. The talent is there. We have seen countless glimpses of it in games.
The one criticism I have is that he can miss the intermediate/short passes and I think that is due to the fact he is still a little anxious when playing. He throws the ball a lot harder than he should when making those throws.
I think a lot of good can come from another year of experience and growing (both physically and mentally) into the position. Just like Mettenberger, I look to see an improvement in his play and increased confidence in the coaching staff to let him throw more and run the read option.
I'm cautiously optimistic we'll have a better plan of attack on offense next season similar to what we saw in 2013.
Now this is a post.
Critical yet fair & objective. 
Posted on 1/22/16 at 10:36 am to OKtiger
The bright side to BH is that he has shown flashes when given the opportunity to miss a few and get another chance.
Hard for any QB to be confident when you know that unless you are perfect on your 15 - 20 attempts, the coaches will bail on you. Also, being overlooked is how could any QB be comfortable when your OL loses at the LOS against monsters like Reed and Robinson.
I think people look at BH and fear that we will have another JJ with showing flashes and regressing.
The difference between this kid and JJ, is this kid is a leader with a great work ethic who strives to get better. Couldn't say the same with JJ. BH will do work this off season.
I've had enough of bashing anyone associated with LSU football. Glass half full optimism from me until the we have the outcome next season. All in for 2016.
Hard for any QB to be confident when you know that unless you are perfect on your 15 - 20 attempts, the coaches will bail on you. Also, being overlooked is how could any QB be comfortable when your OL loses at the LOS against monsters like Reed and Robinson.
I think people look at BH and fear that we will have another JJ with showing flashes and regressing.
The difference between this kid and JJ, is this kid is a leader with a great work ethic who strives to get better. Couldn't say the same with JJ. BH will do work this off season.
I've had enough of bashing anyone associated with LSU football. Glass half full optimism from me until the we have the outcome next season. All in for 2016.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 10:52 am to BigBrod81
I think it was a poor analogy, it is a poor analogy and it will be a poor analogy...forever
but I do hope I am completely wrong
but I do hope I am completely wrong
Posted on 1/22/16 at 10:55 am to mmcgrath
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Every scout said he was inaccurate in high school. I know I didn't watch film of every game, but they said that, and I saw his "arm" in off season competitions and every game at LSU. He doesn't throw the ball well.
In 1983, scouts also said Dan Marino had a drug problem & that he was overrated coming out of Pitt after a subpar senior season. Hmm......I guess scouts are always 100% correct, right?
quote:
What we know: The 1982-83 Marino drug rumors were real. Real rumors, anyway. Marvin Demoff, Marino's agent, heard them in the weeks leading up to the draft. "I started representing him, and I realized there were at least questions," Demoff said.
The rumors wafted their way down to the media. Ray Didinger covered the NFL for the Philadelphia Daily News in 1983, and he heard the rumors about the popular cross-state college star. "It was certainly out there that there were 'issues' with Marino," he said.
The rumor was pervasive and convincing enough that former Steelers coach Chuck Noll admitted in a 1992 Associated Press interview to passing on Marino specifically because of the rumor. The Steelers, of course, were close to the epicenter of all things Marino in 1982—Marino grew up in Pittsburgh and went to Pitt—at a time when being geographically close to a story made a big difference.
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Pitt was coming off an 11-1 season and a Sugar Bowl win in 1981; Marino threw 37 touchdowns as a junior. The Panthers were national championship contenders with a 1982 schedule front-loaded with ranked opponents like North Carolina and archrival West Virginia.
Thanks to the strike, those big games became the biggest games on the typical fan, sports writer and gambler's schedule.
Marino stunk in those early contests. Even Demoff, not representing anyone in that 1983 class yet, noticed when he watched the Panthers edge the Tar Heels 7-6 in the season opener. "It was a very nothing game. We started wondering about what was wrong."
"What's wrong with Marino?" became a national story as Marino threw interceptions and the Panthers narrowly edged, then began losing to, other powerhouses. They also gained a reputation for sloppy play.
LINK
Posted on 1/22/16 at 10:57 am to BigBrod81
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What's wrong with Marino
Well in all fairness, he never won a SB.
Posted on 1/22/16 at 10:58 am to Hooligan's Ghost
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I think you are a poor poster, you are a poor poster and you will be a poor poster...forever
FIFY
Posted on 1/22/16 at 10:59 am to Tigahbader
Made Hall of Fame, don't care.
Anyway, my point still stands that scouts aren't always right & that young players can overcome adversity while improving their play on the field.
Anyway, my point still stands that scouts aren't always right & that young players can overcome adversity while improving their play on the field.
This post was edited on 1/22/16 at 11:07 am
Posted on 1/22/16 at 11:08 am to LuzianaFootball
Same here.
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