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re: “Should have used a spy” -BK

Posted on 11/6/23 at 5:37 pm to
Posted by num1lsufan
Meraux
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 11/6/23 at 5:37 pm to
After hearing the Press Conference, how is he just realizing that they needed to run a spy is very concerning.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 11/6/23 at 6:05 pm to
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LSU never went full contain. The ends rushed up the field all night, which is why Milroe was constantly able to step up and escape between the tackles.

You make him escape towards the sidelines with Perkins spying and he has a much more difficult time breaking big runs. Perkins has the speed to track him, and even if he doesn’t get him down he allows his help to crash down and keep Milroe from running wild.

It wasn’t so much not having a spy, it was the ends continually rushing up the field and allowing Milroe to step up and out.


watch power hour

they did all kinds of shite, a lot of it was dumb

they did go full contain, mush rush, spy etc at times

it didnt work

they had the right defense called, somebody fricked up, it didnt work

they had some really dumb shite called, it didnt work

the DEs and Perkins kept rushing wide, going around Milroe and getting behind him. that is totally inexcusable

LSU did a decent job on first and second down then BAMA said what are you going to do on third? ok, we will take what you give us

sometimes what we gave them, we simply couldn’t contain. Millroe just out athleted us.

seriously some of you should watch the power hour, the defense is not what we think. sometimes it is better than we think, often it is much worse than it appears because the call itself is terrible and somebody fromm LSU pulls a play or a tackle out if their arse


clean out the defensive staff, start over, make the most out of what we have, get better players


Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
42777 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 6:22 pm to
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BK should have a link of the TD ScoreBoard and take a peek at halftime
Hell, I'll give him access to my Sleeper account as well. Every LSU baw across all the leagues was saying the exact same thing, Good thing BK figured it out a couple of days later.
Posted by js1591
Member since Jan 2020
2670 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 9:07 pm to
Are the coaches throwing the games?
Posted by KennabraTiger
Kenner, LA
Member since Sep 2013
7200 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 9:11 pm to
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yamaka

Bro.
quote:

The Mick

Ok, now it makes sense.
Posted by Lsustev
Member since Aug 2022
93 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 9:23 pm to
Should have blitzed.

Tried it one time for ole miss. It worked and never tried it again.

Tried to blitz bama one time. It worked. Never tried it again.

He just figured out the 4 man containment rush which hasn’t worked all season needed an adjustment?

Is he even bothering to pay attention?
Posted by paulb52
Member since Dec 2019
5819 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:18 pm to
Or two spies, perhaps.
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29720 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:21 pm to
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He did a spy a few times early in the game, but then idk what happened from there.
this. Specifically the first drive when we kept him in the pocket and got pressure

I don't get it. It was obvious to everyone on Friday what the game plan should be
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29720 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:28 pm to
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Didn't we have Perk in a spy position all season and "we" bitched because he wasn't rushing the qb every time?
no. Perkins started out at legit Mike, so he went where the play took him. A spy is something very different, and he proved last year he's very good at it.

I'm a big BK fan and think he will get it right, but this may be one of the most obvious coaching misses I can remember. Hell even radio guys were calling for Perkins to spy before the game even started
This post was edited on 11/6/23 at 10:29 pm
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:38 pm to
they did blitz

LBs, CBs, Safeties, none of it worked because bama picked it up or the blitz was just terrible
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 11/6/23 at 10:42 pm to
there was some spying with perkins early on

they also used penn or speights in the middle to guard the delayed crossing routes and watch milroe

one of the TD runs, penn was staring straight at milroe, the DE got too far up the field, milroe took off and blew right by penn. penn did not stand a chance

in the 2nd half they should have gone back to perkins at the MLB spying milroe, mush rush and try to contain, but they never did

that is all on house and is completely indefensible
Posted by SportTiger1
Stonewall, LA
Member since Feb 2007
29720 posts
Posted on 11/6/23 at 11:29 pm to
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the 2nd half they should have gone back to perkins at the MLB spying milroe, mush rush and try to contain, but they never did

that is all on house and is completely indefensible
yep. It was the only possible thing that might work. Everyone knew it, except for the coaches.

Part of it was their refusal to play man to protect the secondary. Being that zone is pretty difficult with 10 defenders, 4 of which being down lineman, that's probably the justification for not spying. If I'm guessing
Posted by Dubaitiger
Abu Dhabi, UAE
Member since Nov 2005
5161 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 5:34 am to
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Yeah, 4 rushing TD’s later we all realize you should have used a spy on Milroe.




The first time Milroe took off on his jet powered legs.. Fool me once

The second time he blasted off for a TD... Fool me twice

Put a Spy on him.... Don't fool me 3 times.

It took this coaching staff until watching Monday's film to figure it out... Too late!
Posted by QB
Louisiana
Member since Sep 2013
5949 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 7:51 am to
No , he should have used two spys. Weeks and Perkins while randomly blitzing one of them on almost every play, depending on down and distance, but for sure on every 3rd down situation. Did we have to get to 12-14 3rd down conversions or whatever it was, to actually start doing something different? that's not coaching, that's watching the game!!
Take out do nothing Smith and insert Weeks. I would bet my life Weeks would make more tackles than Smith in any game, anytime. O was like LSU was playing D with 10 players, especially on 3rd down. Pitiful excuse for coaching.
Posted by Lapaz
Member since Dec 2018
709 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 8:04 am to
A spy can be given instructions to rush the QB when he sees an opening. It frees up the Dlinemen to rush without having to be as concerned with gap integrity, which means they should be able to get to him more easily. It doesn't mean that the QB won't sometimes beat the spy, but it gives the defense a better chance.
Posted by football101
South LA
Member since Jun 2011
235 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 8:29 am to
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This staff is so incompetent. 0 adjustments ever made mid game.


Agreed, amateurs use trial and error as a strategy. Seems to me that professionals getting paid millions might be able to develop schemes that will actually work. And if they aren't working you have a plan to adjust.

It's funny to me that people are fully on board with placing blame on the coaching staff in this thread but in others the staff gets a full pass. Can't be both ways.
Posted by football101
South LA
Member since Jun 2011
235 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 8:39 am to
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I'm a big BK fan and think he will get it right, but this may be one of the most obvious coaching misses I can remember.


He's a very average coach. Not much different than Les Miles as far as football knowledge goes in my opinion. Too many "we shoulda dones". You get paid to know what to do. Shouldn't have to fail again and again to figure it out. His strength is managing a team, which is why he has to wait and see if the schemes will actually work.
Posted by Shovelhead
Kentucky
Member since Jan 2022
269 posts
Posted on 11/7/23 at 8:41 am to
the problem with using a spy is the spy has to be able to tackle the player they are spying. I don't know of a single LSU player that would have consistently done that, Perkins included.
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