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re: Should Collins sue BRPD for defamation?

Posted on 5/1/15 at 11:50 am to
Posted by Alt26
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 11:50 am to
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Collins case is not so much in defamation by the BRPD but in the potential of persons leaking information damaging to his value in the draft. These persons could be in serious financial jeopardy if speaking without authorization or the facts. If ESPN secured this info through an unauthorized leak and the situation is not as reported then they and the source could be liable for damages.


Is there every an "authorized leak"? Everyday we read reports of "according to sources" or "we have information that ______". shite, there are news channels whose entire broadcasts consist of providing information in this manner. Unless it can be shown that there was some sort of clear intent by BRPD or the media to "damage his value in the draft", there is really no cause of action here.

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Also the reports on the media is that Collins is wanted for questioning in a murder investigation


Is that inaccurate?
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
76799 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 11:53 am to
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Should Collins sue LSU for deformation?


Moffett should be severely punished.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 12:03 pm to
This thread is full of "deformation".
Posted by LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
4026 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 12:05 pm to
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BRPD notifies Collins that they want to speak to him about a friends murder in which she may or may not have been pregnant with his child. Next thing they know, he has the best defense attorney money can buy by his side


Sounds like a very wise move by Collins or those advising him. What's the problem?

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Don't think for one minute that the NFL hasn't hired PI's to check into this before draft day




If you think the NFL has PIs running around Baton Rouge while a police investigation is going on into a killing, you are fricking nuts.

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They know more than we do about this whole thing


The NFL doesn't know shite about this other than Collins is wanted for questioning and that's all teams need to hear for the bottom to fall out of his stock.
Posted by Tiger79
Zachary
Member since Apr 2009
7805 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 12:16 pm to
Quit saying you corrected it Dude!!! Just move on
Posted by Tooncesridesagain
Member since Jan 2015
615 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 12:57 pm to
No. When did they ever defame him? They only answered questions by reporters after Schefter leaked the info. All they said was that he was sought for questioning. If anything he might have a suit against the PD for leaking the info in the first place. But I don't know what grounds that would constitute.
Posted by The Dudes Rug
Member since Nov 2004
14055 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 1:10 pm to
No. Suing is trashy. Collins isn't a trashy person.
Posted by joemuggs
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
617 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 2:37 pm to
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Call me crazy, but I think he knows what he's doing a little more than what the armchair quarterbacks on TD are doing.


How many first round NFL Draft prospect cases has he handled?

Since Collins isn't officially a suspect, unless Boren knows something the rest of us don't, this is all about handling a pr issue.



hmmm theres a thought
Posted by joemuggs
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
617 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 2:49 pm to
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I would just like to know why BRPD released his name to the media right before the draft. There was no need to do that. Its perfectly obvious where he is and what he's up to. Just a tiny bit of fore thought and consideration could have prevented this debacle. Sure you want to apprehend the murderer but you don't need to ruin someone's most important career move in the process.



You don't think any person, institution, enterprise, or going concern anywhere near baton rouge Louisiana is going to throw anything LSU football under the bus in such a public and spectacular way for no damn reason ... I know a lot of people have a low opinion of the BRPD but no one is that dense. Theres a reason its all going down the way it is going. Either his agent is a complete moron, or theres a lot more to this story that we know so far. (sadly I fear the latter) but i hope I'm wrong.
This post was edited on 5/1/15 at 2:52 pm
Posted by cayenne
New Orleans
Member since Sep 2007
165 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 2:50 pm to
I don't think the BRPD was wrong with wanting to question him. The timing was very unfortunate for LC obviously.

The problem I have is this. Why did them wanting to question him get released to the media? Why could this not have been more than a phone call to LC or his attorney? If he is not a suspect, then why tell the world about it? If this was someone else, no one would have ever heard about a non-suspect the police want to question...

So no, they did not make a false statement about him... It's the fact they made a statement at all that destroyed him.
Posted by Rhino5
Atlanta
Member since Nov 2014
30790 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 3:03 pm to
Maybe the BRPD knows more than us and wanted to give the NFL the heads up prior to a team investing millions of dollars in him.....but the BRPD is still not ready to formally charge. Just a thought.
Posted by joemuggs
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
617 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 3:06 pm to
Best post on the topic so far.
Posted by joemuggs
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
617 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 3:10 pm to
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Would you chance your team and giving millions to a guy that may be at fault? You cant blame them for this
I would've contacted him and got his side of the story and if he's just being questioned I wouldn't have cared. I will say we don't know the whole story but if he drops down to the 4th or 5th round like some people are saying I think thats absurd.



Yes it would be totally worth thanking that gamble UNLESS of course they are hearing things from their PIs or from NFL security that leads them to think even that gamble is a bad gamble
Posted by joemuggs
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
617 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 3:34 pm to
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hat's the board policy on this

does calling him a murdering murderer fall into that "don't say anything bad about LSU players" rule, or is that out the window since he is a pro and clearly under investigation (despite the "he's not a suspect" reassurances)





i've been saying it for the last 24 hours and I'm still here.

to be clear i have no evidence of this but there is absolutely no way in hell this would be going down the way it is (police actions and collins camp actions) IF BRPD didn't think he did it.

And for those of you making such a big deal about not calling him a suspect read this thread half of baton rouge wants to sue them for saying they want to talk to him.... they'll start calling him a suspect when and if the ink dry's on his arrest warrant.
Posted by km
Baton Rouge
Member since Jul 2008
5653 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 3:35 pm to
"So the police should worry more about screwing over a kid's draft stock than finding the person who killed an 8-month pregnant woman?"

No, of course not; however, they should have contacted his attorney/agent and not gone public with it.
Posted by joemuggs
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2007
617 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 3:47 pm to
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"So the police should worry more about screwing over a kid's draft stock than finding the person who killed an 8-month pregnant woman?"

No, of course not; however, they should have contacted his attorney/agent and not gone public with it.



So you're saying you don't think they tried to do that?
Posted by theantiquetiger
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Posted on 5/1/15 at 3:59 pm to
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So you're saying you don't think they tried to do that?


It's not like they were looking for a hard to find person on the run, this is a kid that was in the national spotlight, and could have been contacted by one of many means, without going public with it.
Posted by BillF
New York, New York
Member since Jan 2006
5792 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 4:02 pm to
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I think a good lawyer could easily prove this. He went from being a first round draft pick in the NFL to where no one will even talk to him all because BRPD released his name in a murder case, even when they say he is not a suspect. Try do this two days before the draft, costing him a multi-million dollar contract.


Saying you want to talk to the former boyfriend about a woman's murder is not defaming him. The police department hasn't said anything untrue.
Posted by Gris Gris
OTIS!NO RULES FOR SAUCES ON STEAK!!
Member since Feb 2008
49636 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 4:21 pm to
You may not like the way it was done, but there's no defamation as of now. None. Zippo.
Posted by DontCare
Baton Rouge
Member since Apr 2012
2516 posts
Posted on 5/1/15 at 4:24 pm to
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So the police should worry more about screwing over a kid's draft stock than finding the person who killed an 8-month pregnant woman?

no. and i fall more on the side of being an apologist with the police--even when they do things right, they take a lot of heat.

but here's the rub. while their sole duty is to investigate the murder, they do also have a responsibility to the general community and that responsibility should include not ruining someone's professional opportunities. i don't think they went out of their way to frick him over and they're constrained in what they can and cannot say, but i find it generally irresponsible to allow rampant speculation to occur that significantly harms Collins' ability to practice his chosen profession by even linking him to the crime just because he has had a relation to the victim. if Collins were a serious suspect, I would have wanted them to be even more reticent in providing information publicly, so as to avoid that effecting the investigation.
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