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Posted on 11/10/08 at 5:30 pm
Posted by TideSaint
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Posted on 11/10/08 at 5:30 pm
I keep seeing where everyone on this board feels Alabama will struggle next season breaking in a new QB. I agree that there will be some expected growing pains for Alabama after JPW leaves, but what interests me is, with the way all of you are clamoring for Jordan Jefferson and Russell Shepard, wouldn't that put LSU in the same exact situation?

From what I can tell, it's a consensus among your fanbase that Lee will not be your QB next season. Where is your experienced QB going to come from next season?

I did not start this thread to ruffle feathers, I just thought it was ironic that everyone here is anticipating Alabama's downfall next season for lack of an experienced QB, when LSU seems to be headed in the same direction. Are you saying that Lee will be your starter? Or are you counting on Jefferson and Shepard?

Thanks.
Posted by LSUshad
Member since Sep 2008
16155 posts
Posted on 11/10/08 at 5:32 pm to
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I did not start this thread to ruffle feathers


Sure you did.


J. Lee will rock next season.

Posted by mdtiger1
Great Northwest Louisiana
Member since Jan 2005
1434 posts
Posted on 11/10/08 at 5:32 pm to
Did you expect rational answers here?
Posted by ready4something
virginia beach
Member since Jul 2008
6541 posts
Posted on 11/10/08 at 5:34 pm to
If JJ is brought along like J. Russell get some playing time towards the end of the season and compete hard in the spring and fall, we could end up in the SECCG as we did Russell RS Soph year. The big question is without us seeing him we have no clue what he can do. We all have seen and been brought to our knees watching Lee.
Posted by supadave3
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Member since Dec 2005
30235 posts
Posted on 11/10/08 at 5:34 pm to
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TideSaint


Don't make me and my wife come over there with my pistol.....aight?
Posted by Keiland4Heisman
Far away
Member since Aug 2007
43 posts
Posted on 11/10/08 at 5:35 pm to
If Russel Sheperd is football smart he is the perfect fit for Crowton's O...but Les probably won't give him any PT either.
Posted by nickelback
metairie
Member since Jan 2007
854 posts
Posted on 11/10/08 at 5:36 pm to
LEE is the man untill he leaves. He will bounce back and be great. I was at the last LSU home game vs. alabama and john parker willson cost bama that game with 2 turnovers in the red zone. Last year he cost you the game again getting stripped at the 3by chad jones. Do you hold that aginst him this year?? No you don't even think about it. Perrilloux cost us this year and we will pay for it again next year. But once Lee is a junior... he will be a beast much like matt staford from uga.
Posted by drizztiger
Deal With it!
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 11/10/08 at 5:36 pm to
The visible improvement in performance usually happens during the offseason. Lee will be in the mix next season regardless if he gets every snap right now or not.

A combination of observing and getting into the fire isn't necessarily bad for any QBs we have right now that won't be redshirted.
Posted by nhsj012
Member since Aug 2008
2975 posts
Posted on 11/10/08 at 5:37 pm to
no it is the opinion of the rantards of this fanbase that say lee will not be the qb next year. im glad it is up to the coaches and not them. Lee will be equivilant to your JPW but better in the years to come. JPW struggled and lost games for his team in the early years but has them at #1 right now.

Bama will not be as good next year after losing the leadership and relative low mistake qb in JPW. Star will make more mistakes and not be able to make the clutch plays that come with experience and maturity thus you will not be as good
Posted by Pujols
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2007
54 posts
Posted on 11/10/08 at 5:38 pm to
That's a good point, but I don't think Russell Shepard will be a sitting duck in the pocket as a freshman. I don't remember Pat White having too much trouble as a freshman.
Posted by Rockerbraves
Greatest Nation on Earth
Member since Feb 2007
8015 posts
Posted on 11/10/08 at 5:39 pm to
The biggest problem for Bama next season won't be QB it will be having to face a once again hungry Tiger team. No question Bama and all the rest of the SEC for that matter benefitted from a satisfied Tiger squad.
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8153 posts
Posted on 11/10/08 at 5:42 pm to
Welcome Tidesaint, I see you are new here

To give you some context, when Jamarcus Russell was the QB here, the majority of posts were about Matt Flynn being better than him, and Ryan Perrilloux being better than both of them.

When Matt Flynn was the starter, Ryan Perrilloux then became the most popular QB, obviously better than Flynn.

Now that we have Jarrett Lee, the majority of posters here think that Jordan Jefferson should be the starter. It's the natural course of things over here.

Hypothetically Speaking, should Jordan Jefferson start the remainder of the season, you will see much less bitching as long as he completes 100% of his passes, runs for 100 yards, and passes for 350 with 0 interceptions. That's not so much to ask is it?

Now that being said, I've never seen a kid put in a tougher spot in football than Jarrett Lee, and to be fair he hasn't performed at the level our recent QB's have.

Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75847 posts
Posted on 11/10/08 at 5:42 pm to
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Don't make me and my wife come over there with my pistol.....aight?


That whole situation just stinks. I love my college football, but to kill or be killed over it is stupid.

Back to the subject though, I actually believe that Lee will be your best option for the next 2-3 years. You can look at my posts from Saturday night and see that I don't believe he should shoulder the blame completely for this loss. He has shown he can put it together on the field, a la Auburn, while also showing freshman mistakes. As a Bama fan, I am more scared of a Lee-led squad, than a Russell Shepard one. Bama's biggest trouble is with the passers, not the runners.
Posted by LSUshad
Member since Sep 2008
16155 posts
Posted on 11/10/08 at 5:44 pm to
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Hypothetically Speaking, should Jordan Jefferson start the remainder of the season, you will see much less bitching as long as he completes 100% of his passes, runs for 100 yards, and passes for 350 with 0 interceptions. That's not so much to ask is it?


Nope. Now you get it. That is the only thing acceptable. PERIOD.




Posted by TideSaint
Hill Country
Member since Sep 2008
75847 posts
Posted on 11/10/08 at 5:45 pm to
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Welcome Tidesaint, I see you are new here


I worked with a fellow poster, Archie Bengal Bunker, and he told me that this was the best SEC forum around. He wasn't wrong.
Posted by ApexTiger
cary nc
Member since Oct 2003
53769 posts
Posted on 11/10/08 at 5:46 pm to
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Serious question for LSU fans
I keep seeing where everyone on this board feels Alabama will struggle next season breaking in a new QB. I agree that there will be some expected growing pains for Alabama after JPW leaves, but what interests me is, with the way all of you are clamoring for Jordan Jefferson and Russell Shepard, wouldn't that put LSU in the same exact situation?


Yes, but it was clear Saturday, that with an average QB for LSU, LSU beats bama pretty handily , say 2 TD's. Do you see it that way? AS LSU fans we do, but we are Bias

Seriously, we hung 200 yards rushing on a solid run Defense..

How many passes we were away off? How many were dropped? 1 inside the 5 yard line!
4 passes were picked!
1 for a TD..

We matched up well against you guys..JPW is a solid senior QB...You will probably do better than we are with Lee, you can't do much worse that what we are doing?

LSU is a one loss club with an Average serviceable QB.

As a fan, all my fears of Saban doing this and that, all went away...Kind of strange, but LSU isn't taking a back seat to Bama or anyone anytime soon...This year and the next will be frustrating to watch...just like our 2004 2005 and 2006 clubs, but then eventually you break thru and win it all.

both our MNC came from 5th year Seniors on a odd years where the schedule is most favorable for us
This post was edited on 11/10/08 at 5:49 pm
Posted by Original Bayou Boy
Flat Lake, LA
Member since Sep 2003
11235 posts
Posted on 11/10/08 at 5:50 pm to
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I just thought it was ironic that everyone here is anticipating Alabama's downfall next season for lack of an experienced QB, when LSU seems to be headed in the same direction.


Does Bama have a "Russell Shepard" waiting to start next year?

Shepard will go through Spring Training and if he's ready....expect him to play.
Posted by ironsides
Nashville, TN
Member since May 2006
8153 posts
Posted on 11/10/08 at 6:00 pm to
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Pat White having too much trouble as a freshman.


Huge difference between Bama and Rutgers there brah.
Posted by Hodson 4Heisman
1987
Member since Oct 2008
1107 posts
Posted on 11/10/08 at 6:02 pm to
Please don't pick on the rantards, they cower easily and are averse to logic. Stick to throwing peanuts and corndogs in the cage.

Lee is going to be fine, and anyone with a half a brain supports the kid.
Posted by Hideo Nomo
Put up both hands, drop one thumb
Member since Apr 2008
7457 posts
Posted on 11/10/08 at 6:15 pm to
I expect to see Lee get most of the snaps with Shepard playing a Perrilloux-type role.
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