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Second TD to Toliver was a great Scheme by Crowton
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:28 pm
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:28 pm
Trindon in the game lined up next to JJ in the shotgun. Fake the quick hand off to TH as he crosses in front of JJ, then JJ fires out to the opposite side of the field to Toliver who had one on one coverage. Shake and bake for the TD.
That wasn't exactly Vanilla.
That wasn't exactly Vanilla.
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Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:30 pm to Tiger Ryno
The intricacy and complexity of the slant (could have been a very skinny post) route is very underappreciated.
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:31 pm to Tiger Ryno
that was more of washington just getting burnt with the corner blitz, good recognition by jefferson
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:31 pm to MSMHater
AS is the setup of using Trindon as a decoy. They ran that play twice before, but handed off to Trindon both times, this set up the TD by TT.
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:32 pm to Tiger Ryno
The only aspect of our offense that I really disliked was our obstinant insistence on running up the gut into a loaded box. I don't know if that is a reflection of Crowton or Miles.
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:34 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
May be vanilla but it is safe. quick throw... short throw.
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:34 pm to MSMHater
quote:kind of like a slowly enjoying fine wine or gargling caviar
The intricacy and complexity of the slant (could have been a very skinny post) route is very underappreciated.
This post was edited on 9/8/09 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:37 pm to The Egg
Egg, Wash got burned by the scheme there and us setting them up earlier in the game. Lining up TH on the same side as Toliver and faking handoff the other way left no one but an undersized corner on the same side of the field as Toliver. That's quality play calling and execution.
Good to see them using TH as a decoy to open it up for the other guys.
Good to see them using TH as a decoy to open it up for the other guys.
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:38 pm to The Egg
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good recognition by jefferson
BT isn't impressed
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AS is the setup of using Trindon as a decoy. They ran that play twice before, but handed off to Trindon both times, this set up the TD by TT.
I agree, good setup play.
maybe crowton is learning to use trindon as a decoy better?
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:39 pm to Tiger Ryno
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That wasn't exactly Vanilla.
anyone notice that when we call creative calls, they usually work?
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:43 pm to The312
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the only aspec of our offense that i really disliked was our obstinant insistence on running up the gut into a loaded box.
man, that drove me nuts and literally to my bar. i had intended on watching that game sober so i could get a good handle on this years team. the first 7 times we did that we picked up 14 yds and had one fumble. i'm gonna again try my stone cold sober observation this week too. wonder how deep in the game it will last.
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:44 pm to TheDoc
True however it is necessary to do some vanilla things early on to set up what you want to do later. I do think it was stubborn to play into washington's hands and run in the middle when they had 8 and 9 consistenly in the box.
Our WRs are a clear advantage for us against every team we will play this year. We have to get the ball to them more.
Let's use the pass to set up the run like Bill Walsh used to do to win 4 super bowls.
however it is necessary to do some vanilla things early on to set up what you want to do later. I do think it was stubborn to play into washington's hands and run in the middle when they had 8 and 9 consistenly in the box. Our WRs are a clear advantage for us against every team we will play this year. We have to get the ball to them more.
Let's use the pass to set up the run like Bill Walsh used to do to win 4 super bowls.
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:47 pm to Tiger Ryno
quote:They got burned because they sent the corner on a blitz that JJ picked up on immediately and threw it to a wide open TT who didnt really even run a route, he just ran a few steps and turned around. Not really LSU's scheme so much as JJ recognizing and making a good play
Egg, Wash got burned by the scheme there and us setting them up earlier in the game.
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:48 pm to Tiger Ryno
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I do think it was stubborn to play into washington's hands and run in the middle when they had 8 and 9 consistenly in the box.
100% crowton brah
/sarcasm
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:50 pm to Tiger Ryno
I'm not looking at the play right now, but I recall that was simply a corner-blitz that Jefferson and Toliver recognized. Toliver cut off his route and Jefferson hit him before the safety could get there. The safety then missed the tackle. Don't see that it had anything to do with a fake hand-off. That corner wasn't reacting to any fake.
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:50 pm to TheDoc
imagine how unsuccessful that play would have been if Miles had called it
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:50 pm to TheDoc
Yea, somehow JJ saw it coming and told Toliver. Great recognition by him, and for such a young player.
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:52 pm to Tig1969
Watch it again, the play had HOliday lined up next to JJ on the same side as Toliver. at the snap he cut in front of JJ as if he was going to take a handoff. Then JJ winged it out to TOliver.
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:53 pm to CRAZY 4 LSU
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Yea, somehow JJ saw it coming and told Toliver
actually I think Crowton recognized the blitz and had him check off
Posted on 9/8/09 at 1:55 pm to Tig1969
quote:I agree, it's really not as complicated as some are making it out to be
Don't see that it had anything to do with a fake hand-off. That corner wasn't reacting to any fake.
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