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re: Sean Payton gives his thoughts on Joe Brady

Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:08 am to
Posted by Goldrush25
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:08 am to
What do you mean fault finding? We're just reporting what's happened, and you haven't refuted any of it.

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I'm way more interested in what will happen in the '19 season. Sure looks like it will be an explosive offense to me.



I'm very interested in what will happen this season but I'm not foolish enough to think that this head coach has turned a new leaf. He has tendencies that anyone can see if you've looked at his past actions.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:12 am to
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You are on a fault-finding mission.
Well it's not much of a mission. The faults are pretty easy to find when the head coach keeps firing the guy HE brought in to modernize the offense. It's happened two years in a row now, and for year three he has placed his faith in a glorified NFL grad assistant.
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 10:25 am
Posted by Damone
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Member since Aug 2016
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:12 am to
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Looks like O&E wanted one also

So what was stopping them from implementing a short passing game two years ago?

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or they wouldn't have brought in Brady.

Is E, the purported best OC available, incapable of incorporating "short" passing plays? You do realize that "short" passes aren't just for the shite of it but part of a larger offensive philosophy taking advantage of matchups and space? I'm not sure O does.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:16 am to
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We're just reporting what's happened, and you haven't refuted any of it.
You are Injustice Collectors. Who has time to even read your l-o-n-g list Orgeron's alleged failings? I sure as hell have no interest in refuting them.

Maybe you could reduce it all to a Civil Complaint and sue O for the cost of your tickets. Good luck with that.

Debbie Downer's On Steroids!!! LOL
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:17 am to
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This whole approach to creating an offense is disjointed and haphazard, which is this HC's MO.

You need look no further than his own quotes. He has no offensive identity, much less an idea of what it should be. They’re going to be running the Saints offense and that of Miami (from the 90s), USC (from the early aughts) and Penn State (lol). They’re going to run the spread with RPO but also a power run game.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:18 am to
I sort of agree

But I think E has an idea of what he wants the offense to be.

I just don’t think he really knew how to get there, and neither did anyone on the staff last year.

I think Brady sorta brings that knowhow.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:23 am to
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But I think E has an idea of what he wants the offense to be.

I just don’t think he really knew how to get there, and neither did anyone on the staff last year.

I think Brady sorta brings that knowhow.



I kind of want to believe this is the case. But why does a guy who has been coaching offense in some capacity since the early 80s need to lean on a guy who just 5 years ago was coaching linebackers at William & Mary in order to establish a short-mid range passing game?
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 10:24 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:23 am to
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You need look no further than his own quotes. He has no offensive identity, much less an idea of what it should be.


What if it works?
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:25 am to


Catchy little tune for Goldy, Ramone and their boys...
LINK
This post was edited on 6/12/19 at 10:30 am
Posted by Damone
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Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:27 am to
If it works I will be very surprised. I guess we will cross that bridge if and when we come to it.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33843 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:29 am to
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What if it works?



What classifies as "works?"
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33843 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:32 am to
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But I think E has an idea of what he wants the offense to be.

I just don’t think he really knew how to get there, and neither did anyone on the staff last year.



See I just don't get that.

I feel that this head coach makes things way harder than they have to be. He hires a guy and then says we're going to create an offense from scratch. No one has that kind of time, least of all him. But that's what he did.

What's so difficult about hring a guy to do what he does best? You don't like what he does best, don't freaking hire him.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:35 am to
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What's so difficult about hring a guy to do what he does best? You don't like what he does best, don't freaking hire him
Yup. Sounds like Gloom, Despair and Agony to me!
Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:36 am to
That’s what happens when a coach values loyalty and ability to be controlled over talent.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33843 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:36 am to
Classic Ree, deflecting when you're out of ammunition.
Posted by Buckeye Jeaux
Member since May 2018
17756 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:38 am to
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Classic Ree, deflecting when you're out of ammunition
I'm not out of ammo - You're out of runway!

The '19 season is comin right up, and your sad act is about to crash.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40081 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:41 am to
I'm glad you've finally admitted you're a Ree alter. What a relief it must be for you.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
293233 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:42 am to
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What classifies as "works?"


Which offenses in LSU history worked and which didn't?

Posted by Damone
FoCo
Member since Aug 2016
32966 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:47 am to
If it finishes in the top 40 in terms of total offense and scoring offense, it will have worked.
Posted by Bayou_Tiger_225
Third Earth
Member since Mar 2016
12388 posts
Posted on 6/12/19 at 10:48 am to
I'll be the first to admit the '19 season is shaping up to be a good one. The offense will be improved from last year. But as I said earlier, that will have more to do with player progression and familiarity than what Brady brings in.
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