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re: Scott Woodward Has No Balls
Posted on 5/19/25 at 6:56 am to FreeState
Posted on 5/19/25 at 6:56 am to FreeState
I'd rather be "Beth-less" for the next few years in softball. This woman is the Nicki Fargas of Softball for LSU. We should move on.....she can't recruit the caliber of players needed to consistantly win.
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Posted on 5/19/25 at 6:59 am to Lutcher Lad
Fargas was a much better game coach than Torina but didn’t care about recruiting. Torina hasn’t shown to do either.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 7:46 am to TigerDCC11
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I wouldn't give him credit for Jay yet.
frick off with this bullshite
This fanbase never disappoints when it comes to shitty takes. 
Posted on 5/19/25 at 7:52 am to Lutcher Lad
beth "no smoke" laval! 
Posted on 5/19/25 at 7:54 am to SwampMonster
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You mean the fatcat who negotiated the deal for Jimbo Fisher that A&M is still chained to?
Read more. Woodward’s contract wasn’t the issue by the time A&M fired Jimbo. Bjork gave him a huge, completely guaranteed extension after his mirage COVID season in 2020. THAT is the reason the Aggies had to eat such a massive buyout. The original contract could likely have been negotiated to less than half that $76 mil by the time he was fired.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 7:57 am to SwampMonster
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Has nothing to do with this discussion. This is about Woodward’s poor management and not a one-off problem.
You were proven wrong by multiple other posters here and now you’re trying to deflect. frick off and crawl back in your hole.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:01 am to TigerDCC11
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I wouldn't give him credit for Jay yet.
I could have been head coach of a team with Paul and Dylan and made at least the Super Regionals. He's done nothing the other two years. We shall see what this year holds. Doing good so far, but hosting a regional doesn't mean you will win it or even get to the Sunday games (ask Beth about that one).
College baseball is much more competitive now than it was when we were winning it all every other year in the 90s. Jay is an elite recruiter and will have us in it more years than not. Careful what you wish for.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:12 am to FreeState
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Scott Woodward Has No Balls
How would you know, peeking over that urinal ?
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:15 am to FreeState
Tell me what AD bats 1000. How does his tenure compare to other successful ADs
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:21 am to ExpoTiger
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Tell me what AD bats 1000. How does his tenure compare to other successful ADs
The fact that most of our non-revenue sports are in the postseason and we’ve had at least one or two legitimate title contending programs on campus three straight years says the overall performance is very good.
Men’s basketball is an obvious exception and a legitimate complaint. That’s the one decision that has failed and will have to be dealt with soon.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:27 am to misey94
I think the jury is still out on Kelly, but it was seen as a good hire by most at the time. Baseball and WBB hires have won national championships. MBB has been a failure, but we were in a situation where the job wasn't very attractive at the time.
Scott inherited Beth, and while he didn't have to extend her, no AD is going to be judged on how the women's softball team does. Sorry, but it's true.
Scott inherited Beth, and while he didn't have to extend her, no AD is going to be judged on how the women's softball team does. Sorry, but it's true.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 8:45 am to FreeState
Why worry about another man’s balls? Seems kind of Aggieish.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 9:40 am to misey94
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You were proven wrong by multiple other posters here and now you’re trying to deflect. frick off and crawl back in your hole.
Hey internet tough guy, the OP was about Woodward’s bad financial commitments. It’s you and the other clowns who went on a rainbow hunt.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 9:43 am to FreeState
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0 for 3.
Lists 5 coaching hires.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 9:52 am to PurpNGold1985
Listen here, Purp. If you could read correctly, I wasn't talking about this year. I specifically said, "This year he's doing great".
I just think we need to pump the breaks on how good Jay is as the Head Coach. I need to see how he ends this year. He doesn't have to win a Championship every year, but LSU needs to be at least in the Supers every year.
So far, he' s done that one year out of 3. I give him a pass for the first year. He might end up being just as good as Skip, but let's not act like he's there right now.
I seem to remeber Burrow saying "LSU should give Orgeron a lifetime contract". How did that work out?
I just think we need to pump the breaks on how good Jay is as the Head Coach. I need to see how he ends this year. He doesn't have to win a Championship every year, but LSU needs to be at least in the Supers every year.
So far, he' s done that one year out of 3. I give him a pass for the first year. He might end up being just as good as Skip, but let's not act like he's there right now.
I seem to remeber Burrow saying "LSU should give Orgeron a lifetime contract". How did that work out?
Posted on 5/19/25 at 9:59 am to FreeState
BETH MILES ain’t going no where. Period!!
Posted on 5/19/25 at 10:05 am to LSUcajun77
Smoke Laval - 1st year - Super Regional
2nd year - World Series
3rd year - World Series
4th year - Regionals
NO Fifth year - Fired
Jay - 1st year - Regionals
2nd year - National Championship
3rd year - Regionals
Smoke was fired because he didn't win in Omaha. However, a lot of people think Smoke was the worst coach ever at LSU, worse than Curley Hallman.
Look, I don't have a problem with Jay. My original post was a shot at SCOTT, not at Jay. But, a lot of y'all are too - Look what he is doing NOW - I'm looking at the whole picture.
I guarantee you if they don't win the regional, everyone will want him fired.
2nd year - World Series
3rd year - World Series
4th year - Regionals
NO Fifth year - Fired
Jay - 1st year - Regionals
2nd year - National Championship
3rd year - Regionals
Smoke was fired because he didn't win in Omaha. However, a lot of people think Smoke was the worst coach ever at LSU, worse than Curley Hallman.
Look, I don't have a problem with Jay. My original post was a shot at SCOTT, not at Jay. But, a lot of y'all are too - Look what he is doing NOW - I'm looking at the whole picture.
I guarantee you if they don't win the regional, everyone will want him fired.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 10:10 am to TigerDCC11
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I'm saying the years he didn't have Skenes and Crews, he was below average.
the only season that he had neither of those guys on the roster (at LSU) he was one out away from a Super Regional.
that is definitely not "below average"
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Orgeron won a National Championship also. Is he a great Coach?
Jay also went to a National Championship series as a Head Coach and currently has his team ranked #1 in the country at the end of the regular season.
did Orgeron do that?
Posted on 5/19/25 at 10:14 am to Nutriaitch
[quote]the only season that he had neither of those guys on the roster (at LSU) he was one out away from a Super Regional.[/quo
Crews was here Jay's first year. Paul transferred Jay's 2nd year.
Maybe you think average for LSU baseball is "almost making" a super regional. I don't.
Crews was here Jay's first year. Paul transferred Jay's 2nd year.
Maybe you think average for LSU baseball is "almost making" a super regional. I don't.
Posted on 5/19/25 at 10:15 am to FreeState
Within a short time of arriving at LSU Woodward significantly cleaned house. He fired O 1.5 seasons after the greatest season in LSU history as it was clear the program was declining badly. He fired Caldwell relatively quickly, and he nudged out Mainieri for not meeting LSU's high baseball expectations.
His past actions don't suggest he hesitant to make changes. I think the big issue is he wasn't prepared and didn't have the foresight to see the coming tidal wave of change in college sports. It's probably harder than ever before to sustain great success simply because of so much annual roster movement. Yet, Woodward locked it some pretty onerous contracts (specifically football and basketball) that make it financially difficult to make a coaching change in an era where the increase in money needed to pay the players is never ending.
Understandably so, LSU is "all in" on football this year. IMO, I think that is driving every other decision in the department. LSU has gone to the donors to get a ton of money to pay players for this upcoming football season (following last year's ton of money to replace the entire defensive staff)...I think with an unspoken agreement that LSU won't also be asking for money to fund coaching changes (buyouts/new hires) this year.
The hope is that the football investment pays off with a Championship...that will, hopefully, open the spigot of more money into the department as a whole. At that time the demand for a football championship won't be quite as high, allowing those funds to be shifted towards making coaching changes elsewhere if need be (most notably men's basketball and, to a lesser extent, softball).
It's a bit of a risk though because if football fails to meet the high expectations the screams for Woodward to go will be louder than ever because he will be the one who saddled LSU with an expensive HC that can't win a championship but is too expensive to fire right now.
His past actions don't suggest he hesitant to make changes. I think the big issue is he wasn't prepared and didn't have the foresight to see the coming tidal wave of change in college sports. It's probably harder than ever before to sustain great success simply because of so much annual roster movement. Yet, Woodward locked it some pretty onerous contracts (specifically football and basketball) that make it financially difficult to make a coaching change in an era where the increase in money needed to pay the players is never ending.
Understandably so, LSU is "all in" on football this year. IMO, I think that is driving every other decision in the department. LSU has gone to the donors to get a ton of money to pay players for this upcoming football season (following last year's ton of money to replace the entire defensive staff)...I think with an unspoken agreement that LSU won't also be asking for money to fund coaching changes (buyouts/new hires) this year.
The hope is that the football investment pays off with a Championship...that will, hopefully, open the spigot of more money into the department as a whole. At that time the demand for a football championship won't be quite as high, allowing those funds to be shifted towards making coaching changes elsewhere if need be (most notably men's basketball and, to a lesser extent, softball).
It's a bit of a risk though because if football fails to meet the high expectations the screams for Woodward to go will be louder than ever because he will be the one who saddled LSU with an expensive HC that can't win a championship but is too expensive to fire right now.
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