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Posted on 6/5/21 at 2:28 pm to SaDub225
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Dude your exaggerating.
No, I’m not.
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And to say he booted the DP is unreasonable; you can’t ever assume a double play
It was a sharply hit ball that was fielded 3 steps from the bag. It’s why the phrase “tailor made double play” was invented.
You’re melting over nothing. Safford did play poorly at 2B. You can’t flip that by trying to say that other players may not have made the plays they weren’t given the chance to make because of his mistakes. That’s just dumb.
This post was edited on 6/5/21 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 6/5/21 at 2:31 pm to TexTgrTed
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Fielding includes catch & throw. Some he caught & had lousy throws, some he just fumbled. 2B is the easiest infield position to play & the kid couldn’t play it. I played it ‘cause I didn’t have the arm to play SS. All you have to do is field a grounder cleanly or knock it down & you have plenty of time for the throw to 1st.
Yes you’re right; it is so easy. That’s why we have so many options available to play it on our team right?? Wrong. You’re being an unrealistic asshat to a kid that played well; be mad at PM for not starting Bianco but dont put hate on the green freshman; bc he held his own.
He didn’t fumble any. And he didn’t have that bad of throws. Throws to 3 are not always perfect, not by any position.But for some reason y’all are trashing and saying that this kid isn’t good because he didn’t make perfect throws last night. All of his throws were reasonable and all of them should’ve been handled with ease by Morgan.
Posted on 6/5/21 at 2:32 pm to SaDub225
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SaDub225
You probably need to take a break if people saying Safford played poorly bothers you this much.
At least conserve your melts for the ones attacking him on a personal level.
Posted on 6/5/21 at 2:46 pm to RB10
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It was a sharply hit ball that was fielded 3 steps from the bag. It’s why the term “tailor made double play” was invented. You’re melting over nothing. Safford did play poorly at 2B.
Dude he did not play poorly. And baseball has all kind of sayings; but jsut bc it was a tailor made opportunity still doesn’t mean you can assume a DP. You can never assume the DP. Never. That’s why you don’t get an error if you still get the FC. You’re assuming bc of a saying, yet said it in your own answer “a sharply hit ball”.... but let’s assume he doesn’t have that hiccup and fields it flawlessly; and throws to 6; gets the out, then JT has a wild throw to Morgan. He did his job, bc he got the out at 2nd. He did his job as well last night bc he got the out at 2nd. All I’m saying ((not melting; which is the most immature description simply bc I’m debating why you’re opinion is to harsh)) is you’re throwing all this criticism to a freshman making his first appearance in forever; IN A REGIONAL. And your go to example to support your opinion is based off the assumption that he should have gotten 2. Which is ironic bc 1). If you assume an error for him; you can assume an error for 2 other fielders involved in that play as well and 2). They still ended up getting a double play on the play.
The bobble actually made the baserunner make that error tbh anyways so you could go crazy here and actually say that he even created a double play. What if he fields that play perfectly and JT doesnt get the out at 3 bc the runner beat it out and the run scores?
TL;DR: the play ended up actually being perfect and working out perfectly and you’re still trying to give him an error for it; or trashing him; when in reality; what actually happened might have actually been the best scenario/outcome
Posted on 6/5/21 at 2:48 pm to SaDub225
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Dude he did not play poorly.
I’m not reading past this. You’re obviously related to him in some way.
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TL;DR: the play ended up actually being perfect and working out perfectly and you’re still trying to give him an error for it; or trashing him; when in reality; what actually happened might have actually been the best scenario/outcome
An easy 4-6-3 “worked out perfectly” because Safford booted it and turned it into a 4-6-5-2 thanks to a heads up play by Thompson and a baserunning mistake?
Ok.
This post was edited on 6/5/21 at 2:55 pm
Posted on 6/5/21 at 2:48 pm to SaDub225
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a kid that played well
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He didn’t fumble any. And he didn’t have that bad of throws
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All of his throws were reasonable and all of them should’ve been handled with ease by Morgan.
I don't blame the kid. It's Paul's fault for starting some freshmen batting sub .100 with a known issue of the yips.
That said, you're literally insane if you believe what I just quoted.
Posted on 6/5/21 at 2:51 pm to SaDub225
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What bad plays did he have dude? I don’t remember; besides maybe a couple (not perfect) throws to first
He booted like three ground balls and got lucky to get the out still at second, when Bianco would've fielded the ball and initiated the double play. He didn't look good in the field or at the plate. He made a few plays, but missed more than he made. That's not even considering how poor he is at the plate.
Posted on 6/5/21 at 2:58 pm to RB10
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You probably need to take a break if people saying Safford played poorly bothers you this much. At least conserve your melts for the ones attacking him on a personal level.
Lmao. Another person thinking that a debate/discussion is a bad thing or “melting”. I’m perfectly fine. This website is a discussion forum; yet anytime people try to have discussion on here; they are “melting” or need to take a break. Lol. It’s crazy. It’s not that they are singling out Safford it’s that the whole entire attitude our fanbase has regardless is dumb. People act like jsut bc we have lsu across our jersey that means our team should be perfect. Criticizing a FRESHMAN; who played well, considering what he was thrown into is the epitome of that entitled attitude. And the unrealistic expectations they have; or criticize a kid over is ridiculous. It’s like some people just get on this site to criticize and complain; and don’t even know what they are bitching about half of the time. These kids are 18/19 years old; still learning and developing experience; but all the hall of fame’ers that use to play and post to this site; forget that real quickly and easily.
Posted on 6/5/21 at 3:02 pm to SaDub225
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Lmao. Another person thinking that a debate/discussion is a bad thing or “melting”. I’m perfectly fine.
You’re not having a debate. You’re refusing to acknowledge that a kid played poorly. Worse than that, you’re actually trying to convince everyone that he played well.
Like I said, you must be a relative of his. No one else would be defending him this passionately.
Posted on 6/5/21 at 3:08 pm to SofaKingTrill
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He booted like three ground balls
No he didn’t
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Bianco would've fielded the ball and initiated the double play.
Another assumption... either way tho unwarranted anger towards the kid instead of PM for putting him out there. Kid held his own for a freshman
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He made a few plays, but missed more than he made.
Which ones did he miss? I didn’t see any. He was credited with an error; only because of technicality. But if you ask anyone who’s ever played they know that was Morgan’s fault/error. I bet if you even asked Morgan himself he would say he should have easily picked that throw.
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That's not even considering how poor he is at the plate.
He was 0-2; our entire team only had 4 hits. He at least got on base.
Posted on 6/5/21 at 3:15 pm to RB10
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Like I said, you must be a relative of his. No one else would be defending him this passionately.
Not a relative. I just know the game. You still haven’t given me any solid reason or evidence that he played “bad”. I didn’t say he played well; i said he held his own, for a freshman being thrown out there in a regional game.
And again not necessarily defending him personally I’m defending the unrealistic entitlement that our fans have for some reason. This was just another example of one of those times. Everybody criticizing or blaming the 18 year old kid and calling him horrible; when PM should be the one their mad at; and I can almost guarantee that Safford is going to be a household name in a season or two.... it’s just LSU fans think if you come to lsu; that automatically you have to be a superstar. If you’re not an all American as a freshman than you’re considered terrible.
Posted on 6/5/21 at 3:15 pm to SaDub225
Maybe he should transfer to Rice. Worked for Hal
Posted on 6/5/21 at 3:17 pm to SaDub225
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Not a relative. I just know the game.
Someone who knows the game doesn't say a booted double play ball that only resulted in two outs because of a base running mistake "worked out perfectly".
They also don't explain away several spiked throws from 2B as "they should always be picked" because it's beside the point. Routinely botching the easiest throw on the diamond (for a fielder) isn't good no matter how you spin it.
You obviously don't have a clue what you're talking about.
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You still haven’t given me any solid reason or evidence that he played “bad”. I didn’t say he played well; i said he held his own, for a freshman being thrown out there in a regional game.
He went 0-2 with a strikeout, and bungled several routine plays. Repeatedly saying "nu uh" to these facts doesn't make them untrue.
This post was edited on 6/5/21 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 6/5/21 at 3:17 pm to bugafor6
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He’s pretty muscular he’s just a small human being
So is Jose Altuve...size isn't the problem, talent is
Posted on 6/5/21 at 3:19 pm to SaDub225
quote:With this I doubt you'll find many that disagree.
unwarranted anger towards the kid instead of PM for putting him out there
quote:And we're back to you being literally insane.
Which ones did he miss? I didn’t see any. He was credited with an error; only because of technicality. But if you ask anyone who’s ever played they know that was Morgan’s fault/error. I bet if you even asked Morgan himself he would say he should have easily picked that throw.
Morgan COULD have picked it, but he threw it 103 mph spiked into the ground from 20 feet away. That's not Morgan's error.
Morgan's error was on ther pick off play... which they put on the pitcher lol
This post was edited on 6/5/21 at 3:21 pm
Posted on 6/5/21 at 3:31 pm to fishdoctor
Uh, yeah. That's kinda obvious, just like the direction of the original post.
Posted on 6/5/21 at 3:38 pm to BillF
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Your post was a good effort. It really was. But everyone knew the former player you were referring to from the very first word, so the big reveal (...Kramer Robertson) kinda fell flat. Now, if you had said "Alex Bregman" you would have had something.
You could see what Bregman was from Day 1. But I remember distinctly thinking about Robertson the exact same stuff people are saying about Safford: "He looks really small and weak and doesn't even look like he should be in college yet. Why is he even on this team?" And look what he developed into. That was my point: don't close the book on Safford.
Also much like Robertson, you can see ability in Safford. He is small now, but you can see athleticism and talent and the swing is pretty. He has potential to be a good to great player who just was not ready last night.
The point was not to blame or hate the kid. Mainieri should not have thrown him to the wolves, but I would not write him off just yet.
Posted on 6/5/21 at 3:43 pm to Buda
He reminds me of a version of Mike Fontenot that can’t field or hit.
This post was edited on 6/5/21 at 3:44 pm
Posted on 6/5/21 at 3:54 pm to Fishhead
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And we're back to you being literally insane.
Morgan COULD have picked it, but he threw it 103 mph spiked into the ground from 20 feet away. That's not Morgan's error.
Dude anyone and everyone who has ever played this game before; knows that a one hopper like that is the easiest type of throw to pick. And most common. 6 & 5 throw one hoppers to Morgan almost on the regular and that’s ok; but it’s not ok for Safford AFTER making a diving stop? He made a good diving stop and just rushed a throw; ((still easily catchable)) that comes from/with being young.
***look at that play Morgan jsut made but he couldn’t make that easy catch last night from Safford!? ***
But let me play along with your theory and I’ll show you why your being a hypocrite and/or just criticizing him because of the underlying anger already towards PM for starting him in the first place.... you say that it is understandable and ok that Morgan couldn’t make that dig last night bc the ball was thrown 103 mph ((but realistically it was probably around 70/80)) but then turn right around and criticize Safford for bobbling a hot ground ball which was “literally” probably 80/90 mph off the bat... so why is Safford expected to flawlessly field that ball; and although he still got an out, he didn’t get 2 outs so he gets criticized and called terrible. Take a step back and you’ll see that you’re more angry that the kid started in the first place; and that underlying anger is making you more critical of one kid over another. When in reality he didn’t play a terrible game; he played and looked like most Freshman making their first start in a regional...
*** another one hopper from Thompson that was just easily picked by Morgan***
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