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Saban gave us one year....

Posted on 12/4/20 at 11:31 pm
Posted by BabyTac
Austin, TX
Member since Jun 2008
12173 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 11:31 pm
Big deal. Our recruiting is on par with then yet we go through massive ‘rebuilds’, attitude issues, team leaders opting out two weeks after players only meetings, HC taking selfies in bed with girls half his age.

At what point do we overcome the stereotype of La being a political failure trickling down to every aspect of life in the state?

Posted by Bjorn Cyborg
Member since Sep 2016
26808 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 11:34 pm to
Saban (and Dabo) have been at their current schools for 12+ years each.

It takes time to establish a consistent program.

Will Orgeron accomplish that? I don’t know. But it’s foolish to compare him to them at this point.
Posted by Mithridates6
Member since Oct 2019
8220 posts
Posted on 12/4/20 at 11:51 pm to
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Big deal. Our recruiting is on par with then yet we go through massive ‘rebuilds’, attitude issues, team leaders opting out two weeks after players only meetings, HC taking selfies in bed with girls half his age.

Back in reality
quote:

Entering 2019, 16 teams are above the 50% Blue-Chip Ratio:

Ohio State 81%

Alabama 80%

Georgia 79%

LSU 64%

Florida State 61%

Clemson 60%

USC 60%

Penn State 60%

Michigan 60%

Texas 60%

Oklahoma 60%

Auburn 58%

Washington 54%

Notre Dame 54%

Florida 53%

Miami 51%




The offseason was literally a perfect shite storm and this season is widely viewed as a farce. Accept the bottleneck year, couldn't happen in a better year tbh
Posted by Ironhead985
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2013
8742 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 3:27 am to
It’s think it’s finally starting to sink into CEO’s head that he’s in a bad situation. Especially if he and Woodward aren’t even on speaking terms as rumored.(not saying that’s it’s true. Only that I’ve read it a couple times on here.) If indeed true, I really do think O will go back to what he was hired for, and that’s to hire the best coordinators available and truly be the CEO.

I maybe wrong, but I don’t think that he so jaded to not change things up ala CLM. I don’t think he’s going to take the fall for anyone.
Posted by elcid
Band Camp
Member since Mar 2007
3036 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 4:31 am to
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Especially if he and Woodward aren’t even on speaking terms as rumored.(not saying that’s it’s true


Never heard of this. LINK??
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24380 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 5:39 am to
quote:

Big deal. Our recruiting is on par with then yet we go through massive ‘rebuilds’,
Saban set the foundation and built the program for the next 20. That is the difference between him, Miles and Orgeron. That IS a “Big Deal”.


quote:

At what point do we overcome the stereotype of La being a political failure trickling down to every aspect of life in the state?

When the head coach stays out of politics to save his arse. Saban didn’t need politics. In fact he told them the go screw themselves whenever he wanted. He is a head coac that EVERYONE respected because he demanded it. Orgeron is not.
Posted by JohnnyU
Florida
Member since Nov 2006
12350 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 6:34 am to
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Saban (and Dabo) have been at their current schools for 12+ years each.


Saban took a mediocre Bama programs and had them contending in his second year. He won 3 titles in his first 6 years. Try again.
Posted by Ethan Martin
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2006
1701 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 6:51 am to
This shite storm was 100% brought on by the head coach. Players only care about the NFL. All are vain, not many team players at LSU, and this is what you get. Florida State all over again
Posted by Concernednewguy7
Texas
Member since Dec 2020
1073 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 8:12 am to
Complacency is hard to get rid of.
Posted by LSU6262
Member since Jun 2008
7492 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 8:16 am to
quote:

Saban gave us one year....


I agree with the body of your post but

Saban didn't give us shite. We took last year and made it our bitch with the best college football ever
Posted by Nutriaitch
Montegut
Member since Apr 2008
7539 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 8:21 am to
quote:

It takes time to establish a consistent program.



starting with year 2 in Tuscaloosa, Saban has lost more than 2 games in a season once.

so it took him all of 12 months to do it.
Posted by FriscoTxTiger76
Frisco TX
Member since Sep 2016
60 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 8:28 am to
Agree that nothing was given to us. We had one great opportunity, and we maxed out that opportunity with the best LSU season ever (probably).

In contrast, Georgia also had one opportunity, but they came up just short and their potential dream season will always be remembered for 2nd and 26.

At least tonight we can ease our pain replaying the many highlights from last year, knowing how they ended in greatness and victory.
Posted by ELVIS U
Member since Feb 2007
9928 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 9:27 am to
It is because of the type of athlete we recruit and the way we recruit them. We sell these kids on getting to the NFL and Saban sells them on being at Bama. We can only refill the cupboard once every four years.
Posted by doubleb
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2006
36053 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 9:31 am to
quote:

Our recruiting is on par with then

No it’s not. Not on the front end( recruiting HS seniors) and not on the back end(recruiting players to stay one more year).
Posted by 1badboy
In space
Member since Jul 2014
8103 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 9:31 am to
Saban is a great coach! His first year
he lost to Louisiana Monroe that is smaller than Bob Jones high here in Madison!!!
Posted by OGtigerfan87
North La
Member since Feb 2019
3380 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 9:52 am to
Our recruiting is not really in par with Bama’s. It has been really good the last 2-3 years (at least on paper) but the gulf between their classes and ours was still significant. Then you add in our weird culture of leaving early and talent hasn’t really been close outside of last year.
This post was edited on 12/5/20 at 9:54 am
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10444 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 9:55 am to
Never
Posted by skullhawk
My house
Member since Nov 2007
23079 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 9:58 am to
quote:

Our recruiting is on par


No and then factor in players returning.
Posted by LSUStar
Medellin
Member since Sep 2009
10444 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 10:02 am to
I think there is some truth to this. The concept of team first is now a quaint anachronism. All people are consumed by petty vanities. All worship mammon.
Posted by Tammany Tom
Mandeville
Member since Jun 2004
3187 posts
Posted on 12/5/20 at 10:03 am to
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Saban (and Dabo) have been at their current schools for 12+ years each.

It takes time to establish a consistent program.


Show me the year that Saban & Dabo fell apart in their 12 year tenure and had a monumental collapse and losing season? I’ll hang up and listen.
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