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re: Ryan Theriot on the missed DP by Arky

Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:36 am to
Posted by OceanMan
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Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:36 am to
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Do you understand that if he doesn't slip he catches the ball?


But he did. And laid out for the ball taking himself out of the play.
Posted by VanRIch
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Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:36 am to

Not sure how anyone can watch that and say the throw to third was the easier play.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:36 am to
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Not really. Some of these comments are ridiculously hard on the kid. It was clearly a big moment, so I’m cutting him some slack, particularly after watching some of his teammates that inning.


It is though. Aloy’s play wasn’t bad because he booted it or anything like the LF. It’s because of the decision he made.

Aloy made a mental mistake. The LF made a physical mistake. You can even argue the 2B made a mistake on the game winner.

Personally, Aloy’s decision was baffling and he could have ended the game, but it didn’t result directly to runs on that play and he still recorded an out. There was also no guarantee that the 2B turns is cleanly, though he probably would have. We will never know.

The LF should have ended the game but he botched it so badly that instead of the final out it resulted in 2 runs and the eventual winning run getting to 2nd.

I know which one I feel is worse, but others will disagree because mental mistakes are big No-Nos.
Posted by The Boat
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Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:37 am to
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Not sure how anyone can watch that and say the throw to third was the easier play.

He could have stayed in that fielding position and flipped the ball to 2nd easily without moving again. He’s actually in perfect fielding position to turn two. A lot of people haven’t watch the play since it happened.
Posted by lsupride87
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Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:37 am to
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Not sure how anyone can watch that and say the throw to third was the easier play.
Throw to second is as simple as ever for a righty. Just across the natural arc of your body. Dont even have to move your feet at all

He had to jump shuffle his feet and shoulders to go to 3rd
This post was edited on 6/20/25 at 10:39 am
Posted by RB10
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Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:41 am to
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Going 3rd from this position is absolutely more difficult than going to 2nd


It was a slightly shorter throw and it’s the one he must have decided he was making in that situation, with the ball being to his right.

I’m not arguing that it was the correct decision, because it wasn’t, but it’s the only explanation for why he went to 3B. No one is making a snap decision to go to third there.

Your GIF even shows he’s still shuffling right as he’s fielding it even though he had plenty of time to round it. He never even considered trying to turn 2, which is what makes the play so strange.
This post was edited on 6/20/25 at 10:45 am
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:46 am to
How are you saying the ball is to his right?

Dude here it is with the ball barely in the dirt. His feet are already set and he is square



And look up the gif above. It took far more effort to throw to 3rd. That was the more difficult harder play

Right before accepting the ball he decides to jump shift his feet and shoulders to go to 3rd. His brain short circuited
This post was edited on 6/20/25 at 10:48 am
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:48 am to
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How are you saying the ball is to his right?


You realize the ball is already in the infield dirt in that picture, correct?

He’d already gotten into position. I’ve posted a link to a replay from the 1B side that shows how much he moved at contact. It was a good 3-4 steps to his right.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:49 am to
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And look up the gif above. It took far more effort to throw to 3rd. That was the more difficult harder play

Right before accepting the ball he decides to jump shift his feet and shoulders to go to 3rd. His brain short circuited


Yes, the gif that shows he’s still moving to 3B and immediately goes there. It wasn’t a snap decision. He had decided he was going there on any ball to his right.

Going to second never crossed his mind once the ball was hit. For whatever reason at contact he’d decided third was the play.
This post was edited on 6/20/25 at 10:51 am
Posted by bbap
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Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:49 am to
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It was a good 3-4 steps to his right.


You are insane person. I just wanted you to know that.
Posted by OceanMan
Member since Mar 2010
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Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:50 am to
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irrelevant in this situation


It IS the situation. Are we seriously arguing whether he took the most conservative approach here?

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so is a missed throw to 3rd


It’s less likely to be. The runner is sliding instead of rounding going home, it’s a shorter throw to the bag and to home if he misses it.

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second is the easier throw based on how he fielded it


Well there are other people in this thread that have already argued against that. And it looked like a pretty easy throw and obviously felt better making it than any other.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:50 am to
I’m not even sure your argument

The short stop was able to be completely set for almost a full second before he fielded the ball. After he fielded the ball he decided to jump pivot his feet and shoulders to make the more difficult play to 3rd

It wasn’t the type of play at all you would be thing go to third because “you are moving to your right”
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:51 am to
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Well there are other people in this thread that have already argued against that
Only people that don’t know anything. Sorry to be rude, but there’s no argument that the throw to 3rd was not more difficult
This post was edited on 6/20/25 at 10:52 am
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:52 am to
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You are insane person. I just wanted you to know that.


Stop watching gifs and pictures that show him after the ball is hit and watch the full Birds Eye replay from over 1B. He moves well to his right before setting up to field it.
Posted by bbap
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:53 am to
ive seen the full replay. 4 steps would have him in the f'ing hole. yeah maybe one half step to his right, like 5 degrees off center. but basically inconsequential.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
49807 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:53 am to
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Well there are other people in this thread that have already argued against that. And it looked like a pretty easy throw and obviously felt better making it than any other.


We disagree with Pride which means we’re automatically wrong. It’s how he handles every argument.
Posted by The Boat
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:53 am to
It’s doesn’t matter where you came from once your feet are set. That’s the whole point of getting in front of the ball, other than to block it. He had no momentum going in either direction. If he was moving to his right he wouldn’t have been able to do that jump switch throw to 3rd.
This post was edited on 6/20/25 at 10:57 am
Posted by kciDAtaE
Member since Apr 2017
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Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:54 am to
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calling it the worst play of the game is a tad bit ridiculous,

I’m not calling worst play of the game. I’m calling it bad coaching. I think there is a reason why DVH hasn’t gotten over the hump.
Posted by 777Tiger
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:55 am to
why tf are listening to Theriot anyway? WTF does he know about baseball?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
107796 posts
Posted on 6/20/25 at 10:55 am to
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RB10
You want to be personal about this? Ok

You are likely fat and unathletic. You could poll 1,000 shortstops, all 1,000 would say the throw to 3rd is more difficult. This isn’t “an argument”. This is you being stupid

You are arguing , jumping, shifting your feet, turning your shoulders and throwing against your body is easier then setting set and throwing naturally across your arm angle without having to move your feet at all

In your world, it would be easier for lefties to play SS. That is what you are arguing for
This post was edited on 6/20/25 at 10:58 am
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