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re: Russell Shepard will be primarily a WR while at LSU. T or F?
Posted on 3/15/09 at 12:12 pm to sml71
Posted on 3/15/09 at 12:12 pm to sml71
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looking past RS's obscenely gaudy QB stats
what were his passing stats (and let's remember, it was a non pro-style attack)?
all LSU fans hope and pray that he can develop the passing of a true QB, but that's emotion
logic says he played in a mainly option offense, has questions about his height, and has mediocre mechanics. does this automatically write him off? no, but logically, it puts him at a disadvantage of playing QB
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Posted on 3/15/09 at 12:14 pm to sml71
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Miles has the nation's #1 QB prospect on his roster
Once they're on the roster, what they were ranked out of high school is completely irrelevant.
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Do you not realize that by getting RS, Miles all but ensured that most other high QB prospects aren't going to come to LSU?
right. Except that he signed a really good QB in the same fricking class. Fail.
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Do you not realize that by recruiting RS, this influences the WR's who will or won't commit to LSU
WRs want to play with the QB who best gets them the ball. If that turns out to not be RS, do you think they'll give a frick what he was ranked coming out of high school?
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do you really think that Miles essentially decided that his QB situation from last year is what he wants for the next couple of years
Of course not. That's why he signed 2 QBs. And I'd imagine he's really banking on the 2 freshman he had last year to progress significantly.
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Does he do this knowing that his new stud WR's didn't sign up for LSU so that they could play QB roulette a la last year's situation during their collegiate careers?
SFP has clearly said that he thinks Jefferson will be the starter the next 3 years. How is that "QB roulette?"
I've never seen RS play, so I'm not counting him out at QB. But I think Jefferson's height gives him a big advantage at that position. And I think it's likely LSU is a better offense with both on the field at the same time. Take RS's cock out of your mouth long enough to realize that's not an insult to him. In fact, it's quite the compliment.
Posted on 3/15/09 at 12:15 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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You really should stop posting on this matter. The statements like the one above are just making you look dumber and dumber. If you honestly beleive that the #1 dual threat recruit in the nation, who has proven to be the ultimate team player, recruiter, and dedicated LSU athelete, is just going to "get his degree" while at LSU you are truly one of the more idiotic posters on this board.
I really don't understand what your agenda is against Russell Shepard and why you keep starting negative threads about him. So far he's accepted his role on the team and has stated publicly that he will do whatever it takes to help the team win, whether that is playing slot or at QB.
It is highly unlikely, if not impossible, that he will be strictly a "receiver" in college. He has never played receiver before, what makes you think he will now? Maybe he will play some slot, or be in a Wild Tiger formation where he runs the ball or catches screens, that is a fair argument, but wide receiver? He has neither the skills, experience or body type to be a SEC caliber full time receiver.
I don't know where you get some of the bullshite you spew, but you should really re-evaluate it before you post more of it.
My Lord, what a horrible, horrible post.
Posted on 3/15/09 at 12:18 pm to SlowFlowPro
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we make option QBs WRs all the time
Kevin Faulk
Early Doucet
Shyrone Carey
Joe Addai
Corey Webster
Skyler ?
Jai Eugene
Off the top of my head, these are guys who I know played QB in high school. Not to mention Randle.
Posted on 3/15/09 at 12:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
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unless he redshirts, he's going to have 1 year to play QB almost definitely
Sooo...he has no chance of beating out Jarrett Lee or Jordan Jefferson before they graduate?
And meanwhile, the staff is going to groom him for one day having starting job by...
...teaching him route-running and having him hit the blocking sled for a couple of years first?
And meanwhile, Les is content to let his other QB recruits (you know...the ones from this year who signed elsewhere because they didn't want to compete agasing RS) get groomed by other schools to pick apart his stellar defense while he has RS running pass routes to catch passes from Jarret Lee? I hope he's also getting RS some time in learning how to tackle defenders who are on their way to the endzone with another pick six!
But he can never beat out Lee as a QB, I guess.
Meanwhile, other coaches in succeeding years will be telling this year's high school QB recruits that if they go to LSU, Les will have them playing other positions because they can never beat out LSU's current stable of mediocre QB's, but that if they go to their schools instead, they'll have them competing for the job from the start.
Stick with the EA football and bar prep, SFP.
Posted on 3/15/09 at 12:24 pm to Hot Carl
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right. Except that he signed a really good QB in the same fricking class. Fail.
Just like Jarrett Lee was a "really good" recruit?
Look, he got a kid from Mississippi who is supposed to be "pretty good". He also stole the kid from that QB factory known as Mississippi State. And by the way, the last that I saw, Crowton wasn't installing a "drop back QB" style of offennse. Don't write him off before he suits up, but don't get your hopes up, either.
As for having RS's "cock" in my mouth, I'm just taking both his and Les' words as reported at face value. I'm also taking his stats at face value, and they say volumes more to me than anything that SFP has to say.
Posted on 3/15/09 at 12:25 pm to Hot Carl
I believe Lafell played QB too
Posted on 3/15/09 at 12:25 pm to SlowFlowPro
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no, but logically, it puts him at a disadvantage of playing QB
Only if you are using SFP logic.
I guess that time will tell.
Posted on 3/15/09 at 12:30 pm to Ponchy Tiger
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I like what LSU did in 2007 where they ran alittle bit of everything. It will give LSU such a big advantage.
True, but I can't stand when the bring in a particular player to run a certain play, and then give it to him 99% of the time. Virtually every time they brought in Holliday or Keiland, they gave them the ball. Where's the gussing game there.
Posted on 3/15/09 at 12:30 pm to Hot Carl
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QB
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Shyrone Carey
ha
Posted on 3/15/09 at 12:33 pm to Hot Carl
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Off the top of my head, these are guys who I know played QB in high school. Not to mention Randle.
Laron Landry
Mike Clayton played QB his senior year, I believe.
Posted on 3/15/09 at 12:35 pm to Rocket
Corey Webster
Posted on 3/15/09 at 12:38 pm to sml71
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Just like Jarrett Lee was a "really good" recruit?
Yes. Jarrett Lee was very highly rated. I'm not sure what you're point is.
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He also stole the kid from that QB factory known as Mississippi State.
The only reason he considered MSU is because of his family ties and where he lived. I'm pretty sure he could have gone other places.
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And by the way, the last that I saw, Crowton wasn't installing a "drop back QB" style of offennse.
the most success Crowton has ever had with a QB(statistically) was with Tim Rattay, who was a complete statue. I don't know how this "Crowton only likes a dual-threat" myth got started--but that's all it is--a myth.
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I'm also taking his stats at face value
That is part of your problem. High school stats are almost meaningless.
I love dual-threats, but I'll admit I'm biased towards big arm QBs. Because in the SEC, we are going to need a guy who can make all the throws to lead us from behind in the 4th quarter sometimes.
Posted on 3/15/09 at 12:38 pm to Rocket
I still think its misleading to consider that though. In high school you usually put your best athlete on the field at quarterback just to get the ball in his hands. When we recruited Shyrone Carey I don't think it was a matter of changing him from a QB into a wr/rb.
Posted on 3/15/09 at 12:44 pm to sml71
quit being a cock sucker
Your too worried with being a dickhead rather than trying to understand what I was saying. So I will break it down for you. Normally with these superstars you worry about finding a spot for them to fit in where they will be happy. This isn't the case with RS because he has said a number of times that he just wants to help the team. It doesn't matter where he plays. Does this make any sense as to why I am not worried about any of that.
Your too worried with being a dickhead rather than trying to understand what I was saying. So I will break it down for you. Normally with these superstars you worry about finding a spot for them to fit in where they will be happy. This isn't the case with RS because he has said a number of times that he just wants to help the team. It doesn't matter where he plays. Does this make any sense as to why I am not worried about any of that.
This post was edited on 3/15/09 at 12:54 pm
Posted on 3/15/09 at 12:52 pm to SlowFlowPro
Shep is said to be closer to 200 lbs now.. that's a significant amount of muscle added..
He's obviously making strides in the weight room. Why can he not make strides throwing the ball? I think we all agree that he doesn't need work running the ball.
He's got the work ethic to fix throwing mechanics.. and room to grow to put some oomph behind his throws.
LINK
Threw the ball 35 yards with decent zip. Stood tall in the pocket in the face of pressure.
He's obviously making strides in the weight room. Why can he not make strides throwing the ball? I think we all agree that he doesn't need work running the ball.
He's got the work ethic to fix throwing mechanics.. and room to grow to put some oomph behind his throws.
LINK
Threw the ball 35 yards with decent zip. Stood tall in the pocket in the face of pressure.
This post was edited on 3/15/09 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 3/15/09 at 1:01 pm to Hot Carl
quote:And yet it's still 10 times better than any of the assinine drivel you put out there.
My Lord, what a horrible, horrible post.
Posted on 3/15/09 at 1:09 pm to Rocket
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Laron Landry
Mike Clayton played QB his senior year, I believe.
early played qb too.
Posted on 3/15/09 at 1:32 pm to Roaad
The problem with RS being a qb right now is Jordan Jefferson. If all LSU had was Jarret Lee, a non-mobile, drop back passer, then RS may well end up starting a few games at qb this year. But Jefferson is VERY MOBILE, and he has a MUCH better arm than Russell.
I'm afraid that Mr. Sheppard will not end up a qb, and will spend his next 4 years as an All-America slash type player - WR/RB/QB/Returner, which frankly is probably best for everyone.
I'm afraid that Mr. Sheppard will not end up a qb, and will spend his next 4 years as an All-America slash type player - WR/RB/QB/Returner, which frankly is probably best for everyone.
Posted on 3/15/09 at 1:35 pm to mytigger
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Russell Shepard will be primarily a WR while at LSU
It's March. Spring practice started 3 days ago. Baseball season is just now getting into SEC play. The basketball team is about to go to the tournament. WHY DO WE FEEL THE NEED TO DISCUSS THIS STUFF RIGHT NOW??????????
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