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re: RPO with Nuss

Posted on 10/21/24 at 8:18 pm to
Posted by Bert Macklin FBI
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 8:18 pm to
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RPO does include a run by the QB or the RB. The read option is just a subset of the RPO.


Incorrect.
Posted by Saunson69
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 8:33 pm to
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RPO is Run “Pass” Option. Either going to be a hand off to back or qb pass.


Last time I checked, a QB running qualifies under Run Pass Option.
This post was edited on 10/21/24 at 8:34 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 8:43 pm to
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I think at some point Nuss has to run the ball if it’s available on the RPO. Defenses will start crashing down every time they do a RPO until Nuss can prove other wise. Just my opinion.


OMFG!!!!!!!!!!1

MORE FOOTBALL IGNORANCE!

Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 8:45 pm to
quote:

Last time I checked, a QB running qualifies under Run Pass Option.



that is NOT how it is intended or run

good grief you people.

LINK

quote:

Like the read-option, the decision relies on the quarterback to hand the ball off or keep it. When he keeps it, he will throw the football instead of running it as he did in the read-option.
This post was edited on 10/21/24 at 8:48 pm
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 8:53 pm to
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At some point they have to call the zone read


if we ever do it NUSS will have tons of yards rushing when he pulls out the mesh

the DE is crashing down all the time. it is there if we want it.

we need to keep TAMU honest and start running him on zone reads.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 8:55 pm to
quote:

Last time I checked, a QB running qualifies under Run Pass Option.


then every pass is an RPO.

because that’s always an option.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 8:56 pm to
quote:

then every pass is an RPO.

because that’s always an option.


true

the old RPO's before they were called that were strictly rollouts and if the pass was not there you ran.
Posted by SammyTiger
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 9:01 pm to
the different is that they weren’t run blocking in rollouts
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 9:02 pm to
quote:

the different is that they weren’t run blocking in rollouts


correct
Posted by Bring Da Wood
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 9:14 pm to
Nuss pulled the ball and ran it on a read option against Arky. I think Nuss is playing through some nagging injury. There have been games where he gets up after a hit limping. Maybe an ankle sprain that just hasn’t fully healed. Could be the reason he hasn’t scrambled downfield more.
This post was edited on 10/21/24 at 9:15 pm
Posted by Nutriaitch
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 9:52 pm to
that’s about as simplified as you can get.
good link.


and really, all of these are just modern adaptations of the old triple option.
just narrowed down to only 2 choices per play for quicker development in today’s spread offenses.

but the idea/concept is the same as it’s always been.

nobody uses the FB dive anymore, so that “option” has been pretty much removed completely from the equation.

but every triple option team had plays where one of the options is basically the same exact play/read as the modern zone read or read option. the qb either gives or keeps and runs based on his read.
it’s the same read today, just run mostly run if of the shotgun in today’s game.


they also all had plays where the option was give or pass. and again it’s still the same decisions being made based off the QBs read. in today’s game its mostly shotgun and the QB has a lot more receiving options than old school options.

so none of these are new ideas.
they’ve just all been tweaked to the modern game.
Posted by Fat Bastard
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 9:57 pm to
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nobody uses the FB dive anymore, so that “option” has been pretty much removed completely from the equation.


correct

does army run the flexbone now? like navy and Gt used to do?

i watched their game saturday.

man that damn offense has some options. shite. 3 options with maybe a 4th at times. it is wild.

flexbone from under center and from the gun. people going everywhere. it was lethal. read for a dive, read for a toss or jet sweep, pass or run it yourself. crazy yet effective. so many reads/fakes each play basically. it's almost play action each damn play. rarely is it a straight up run or pass without making a read and having options after that initial read
Posted by Maverick14
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Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 10:23 pm to
No he will do it against atm
Posted by Maverick14
Sulphur, La
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 10:27 pm to
It’s the same thing as an option play you can run the running back or/throw it or run it run pass option! Some of you are just stupid!
Posted by emanresu
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 10:42 pm to
You're talking about a zone read, not an RPO.

FFS people
Posted by misey94
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 10:55 pm to
quote:

Last time I checked, a QB running qualifies under Run Pass Option.


In the context of how RPO is used to describe a particular type of play in modern football, no, it does not.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 11:01 pm to
quote:

does army run the flexbone now? like navy and Gt used to do?


I think Air Force is the last team really running a flexbone anymore. Army and Navy have both transitioned to running out of the shotgun and both throw the ball more than in the past. The shift had to do with the changes in rules that restrict the cut blocks that those offenses depended on to work with smaller offensive linemen.
Posted by The Levee
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 11:05 pm to
You actually can run a Quarterback in an RPO. IF the run is a Quarterback run like out of an empty set or called Power with a fake sweep.

But most of the time it’s tied to a rb run play to put a specific defender in a bind.
Posted by misey94
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 11:21 pm to
quote:

You actually can run a Quarterback in an RPO. IF the run is a Quarterback run like out of an empty set or called Power with a fake sweep. But most of the time it’s tied to a rb run play to put a specific defender in a bind.


Right. But like the pass third option on the Zone Read that I mentioned earlier, it’s not a very common play unless you are a service academy. 98% of RPO plays are going to have the QB reading one or two pass routes or handing off. Running the QB is definitely not a common occurrence like the people who keep creating these threads think it is.
Posted by kew48
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 10/21/24 at 11:40 pm to
If you google an RPO you see a QB run option described within its definition. If you visit YouTube with Urban Mayer describing the origin of the RPO you’ll see him describe a read option within an RPO where the QB runs the ball !
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