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Roster limits and a changing sport forced LSU away from the Eddy Furniss-like slugger
Posted on 4/13/18 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 4/13/18 at 2:35 pm
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Emphasis on power pitching + athleticism evident in a potentially "tremendous" 2018 signing class
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LSU has played all but three games this season without shortstop Josh Smith. This weekend’s series against Tennessee marks the third week without second baseman Brandt Broussard, the team’s leading hitter. Center fielder Zach Watson, catcher Hunter Feduccia and slugger Bryce Jordan have all also missed time due to injury.
And that’s just the position players.
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Despite that laundry list of injuries, LSU (21-13, 6-6 Southeastern Conference) begins the weekend just two games out of first place in the SEC West.
The record isn’t what Paul Mainieri and Co. envisioned when the season began, and nobody is making excuses, but it’s somewhat remarkable that LSU has kept its head above water to allow at least the possibility of another late-season run as some of those key players return to the lineup.
The fact LSU recruited a light-hitting, multi-positional infielder like Hughes in the first place speaks to LSU’s philosophy in roster building under Mainieri.
LSU doesn’t target versatile athletes by accident, and while it’s not the most ostensibly popular way to build a team, it’s certainly kept an injury-ravaged season from going completely off the rails.
AN INSIDE LOOK AT THE APPROACH TO ROSTER BUILDING THAT’S HELPED LSU WEATHER AN INJURY-RIDDLED SEASON
Posted on 4/13/18 at 2:50 pm to Tiger Ree
Just one look at what Arkansas and Florida are doing within our own conference proves that you can still build a team around power hitters at the plate.
With that being said, I don't mind that we like to build our roster around smaller athletes who can play multiple positions, but it would be nice to have a few sluggers in the lineup.
With that being said, I don't mind that we like to build our roster around smaller athletes who can play multiple positions, but it would be nice to have a few sluggers in the lineup.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 2:58 pm to classicgold
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With that being said, I don't mind that we like to build our roster around smaller athletes who can play multiple positions, but it would be nice to have a few sluggers in the lineup.
Deichman had more homeruns in his Jr season than Furniss did his Jr year. With way shittier bats.
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:08 pm to classicgold
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Just one look at what Arkansas and Florida are doing within our own conference proves that you can still build a team around power hitters at the plate.
What Florida is doing this year is not normal for them. They are designed just like we are most years with elite fielding and elite pitching. Last year they hit .259 as a team and had 53 home runs yet won the national title because they led the conference in pitching and fielding % and did enough in Omaha to generate some offense. We've had years in the Mainieri era just like they're having this year. Same with Arkansas. Their m.o. for years has been great pitching and subpar hitting. It's only been in the past few years that their hitting has improved.
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 3:10 pm
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:15 pm to classicgold
Being a power team isn't all that helpful when you get to Omaha and suddenly face foul poles 20 feet further back than your own park and power alleys 10-20 feet further back as well, all while the wind loves to blow in.
Don't think we need a lot more power, like an Arkansas team is built. Elite pitching is what really wins and manufacturing runs these days in Omaha.
Yeah it's fun to look at Arkansas' lineup where it seems like everyone has at least 5 home runs on the year, but what happens when that gets taken away if they make it to Omaha?
Generally speaking to have more power, you sacrifice some athleticism which means you sacrifice fielding. Arkansas fields at .972, which is tied for 2nd worst in the conference. That doesnt account for range of the players, either. Things our guys can track down in the outfield and make catches on, vs. their guys in the outfield cant get to, and those go down as hits.
Kentucky always seems to lead or come close to leading the league in home runs, because they have a baby sized right field pole and load their lineup with left handed power hitters. Again, when did that ever help them win anything important?
Florida is the enigma this year, they have power, they have fielding, they have elite pitching...unfortunate, they might go back to back. That's an extremely rare combination. To me, O'Sullivan has simply passed up Mainieri in building the best roster these days. Call it luck, but he consistently has great pitching and now the hitting is FINALLY coming around. Jonathan India's season is just ridiculous at this point.
Don't think we need a lot more power, like an Arkansas team is built. Elite pitching is what really wins and manufacturing runs these days in Omaha.
Yeah it's fun to look at Arkansas' lineup where it seems like everyone has at least 5 home runs on the year, but what happens when that gets taken away if they make it to Omaha?
Generally speaking to have more power, you sacrifice some athleticism which means you sacrifice fielding. Arkansas fields at .972, which is tied for 2nd worst in the conference. That doesnt account for range of the players, either. Things our guys can track down in the outfield and make catches on, vs. their guys in the outfield cant get to, and those go down as hits.
Kentucky always seems to lead or come close to leading the league in home runs, because they have a baby sized right field pole and load their lineup with left handed power hitters. Again, when did that ever help them win anything important?
Florida is the enigma this year, they have power, they have fielding, they have elite pitching...unfortunate, they might go back to back. That's an extremely rare combination. To me, O'Sullivan has simply passed up Mainieri in building the best roster these days. Call it luck, but he consistently has great pitching and now the hitting is FINALLY coming around. Jonathan India's season is just ridiculous at this point.
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 3:20 pm
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:18 pm to thunderbird1100
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thunderbird1100
spot on but some of our fans will never accept that the recipe to win in Omaha is not what it once was. Just look at who has won since it was moved to TDA. Coastal Carolina is the only team that has won that was considered a power hitting team.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:23 pm to lsufball19
But Coastal won on the back of veteran grinders and pitching. They could hit for power but they were a pressure team, at least in that post season run.
ETA: Anthony Marks, everyone's favorite Chanticleer and the face of their team that post season, went to the same high school as Trent Vietmeier. Vietmeier's dad was their coach there. They didn't actually play together.
ETA: Anthony Marks, everyone's favorite Chanticleer and the face of their team that post season, went to the same high school as Trent Vietmeier. Vietmeier's dad was their coach there. They didn't actually play together.
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 3:32 pm
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:28 pm to thunderbird1100
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Call it luck, but he consistently has great pitching and now the hitting is FINALLY coming around
They got very lucky a couple of those pitchers showed up on campus
Just think how good our pitching would be if our 2 high draft picks from last class would be on our roster
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:34 pm to Midtiger farm
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Just think how good our pitching would be if our 2 high draft picks from last class would be on our roster
Pitching really hasn't been losing games. I get your point though.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:37 pm to Midtiger farm
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Just think how good our pitching would be if our 2 high draft picks from last class would be on our roster
Nate Pearson is the best pitcher in the Blue Jays minor league system. He might make the majors late this year, but probably next year.
Blayne Enlow is a little farther away, but is a prized part of a loaded Twins farm system and plays on an incredibly loaded low A club. With 3B Andrew Bechtold, another JUCO signee from last years class.
Now, if Bechtold were here, we wouldn't have Broussard. Labas was one of the replacements for Enlow and Pearson.
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 3:38 pm
Posted on 4/13/18 at 3:48 pm to Midtiger farm
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They got very lucky a couple of those pitchers showed up on campus
Luck has nothing to do with it when it's consistently happening. They pretty routinely seem to bring in Top 100 overall high school players now, it's sickening.
Luck would be more like Arkansas' closer who throws 96 from the left side, he topped out at 92 in high school, and still made it college.
This post was edited on 4/13/18 at 3:52 pm
Posted on 4/13/18 at 4:07 pm to Tiger Ree
Mainieri loves Mosquito Ball.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 4:31 pm to Tiger Ree
With pitching and defense you always have a chance to win. Pitching and defense is much more consistent than hitting for power. You hope one or two of the bats you recruit develop some power by year 2 or 3.
Posted on 4/13/18 at 10:23 pm to TigerNlc
I’m aware that we had a power hitter last year. I’m saying it would be nice to have a 3, 4,and 5 hope that could all make you pay with the deep ball
Posted on 4/13/18 at 10:27 pm to classicgold
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I’m aware that we had a power hitter last year. I’m saying it would be nice to have a 3, 4,and 5 hope that could all make you pay with the deep ball
Beau, Watson, Cabrera, Feduccia and Slaughter can make you pay with the deep ball. The frick you talking about?
Posted on 4/13/18 at 11:36 pm to LSUFanMizeWay
WHich smaller players is lsu throwing out there that yall want replaced? Name names
Posted on 4/14/18 at 3:12 am to Tiger Ree
Speaking of Eddy I saw him this past weekend in Tyler helping coach his son's 9U baseball team. I think he could still hit a few homers. By the way his son's team, the Tigers, had some good looking purple and gold uniforms.
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