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re: Ross Dellenger interview on OTB
Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:38 pm to Lester Earl
Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:38 pm to Lester Earl
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He has all the leverage. Him accepting any less of what he is owed is essentially doing what you are saying.
He has the leverage because Orgeron wants him gone.
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You don’t quit your job and not collect money when you are under contract. How dumb of a baw are you?
I'm quite sure he could walk away from his contract while forfeiting what's left on it if he wanted out that badly.
I can see it playing out like you're saying it.
CANADA; I'm done with this place, I'm out. See you chumps later.
ALLEVA; WAIT Canada! We have some money to give you!
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Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:38 pm to BilJ
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it’s he that wants out all on his own than he has no leverage and would be owed nothing.
BigJ, no, not you too.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:41 pm to Lester Earl
Explain your logic Lester. Canada wants out of his contract all on his own accord as you have suggested....why would LSU owe him any portion of the remainder of his contract ?
Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:44 pm to BilJ
I cannot believe this argument he's trying to put forth.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:44 pm to Lester Earl
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An OC making $1.5 mil a year isn’t leaving without all of that money if he wants to actually be at LSU
I seriosulyndoubt He Is just walking away.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:45 pm to Fun Bunch
It's why O needs to go
Guy brings nothing to the table if and when he does this shite
Guy brings nothing to the table if and when he does this shite
Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:46 pm to BilJ
BigJ he is owed a lot of money. And I never said it is all on his own. He doesn’t get along with coach O. Who the frick leaves that much money on the table
Again when it comes out that he renegotiated his buyout, my point will be made. It’s utterly shocking to me you do not understand this. Aren’t you in finance dude?
Again when it comes out that he renegotiated his buyout, my point will be made. It’s utterly shocking to me you do not understand this. Aren’t you in finance dude?
Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:46 pm to Fun Bunch
I can’t stand O
Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:48 pm to Goldrush25
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cannot believe this argument he's trying to put forth.
you think he’s getting fired AND is going to take less money because he is a good guy
Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:49 pm to Fun Bunch
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People badmouthing Canada are blowing my mind.
O hired him to run an offense and then wouldn't let him run his fricking offense.
Of course it didn't work out.
I think this is a big overreaction, especially when you consider the circumstances surrounding it. We were getting penalized out the arse and one of the theories was the pre snap motions was messing the team up, and it was a temporary solution to clean up the game. And it was only for a half.
I mean, honest question, is that the very last time Orgeron messed with the offense?
Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:52 pm to sicboy
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We were getting penalized out the arse and one of the theories was the pre snap motions was messing the team up, and it was a temporary solution to clean up the game. And it was only for a half.
It was said this morning that the meddling started in the Syracuse game. Then the Troy debacle happened and Joe Alleva had to have the meeting to tell Orgeron to BTFU.
As for penalties, what did presnap motions have to do with the fact that Orgeron's defensive lineman kept hitting the opposing qb's 2 steps after the pass was released on 3rd and long?
Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:54 pm to Lester Earl
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BigJ he is owed a lot of money. And I never said it is all on his own. He doesn’t get along with coach O. Who the frick leaves that much money on the table
No one does. That doesn't support the point you're trying to make.
What if LSU wasn't willing to let him go? What would happen in the hypothetical situation? He's not leaving right, because no one leaves all of that money on the table.
There is a huge element that you seem to be going out of your way to not mention, and that is Orgeron wants him gone, badly.
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 2:56 pm
Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:55 pm to Choupique19
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As for penalties, what did presnap motions have to do with the fact that Orgeron's defensive lineman kept hitting the opposing qb's 2 steps after the pass was released on 3rd and long?
Well that's a long standing LSU tradition. That was just one of the fixes for the offenses penalties. I'm pretty sure there was an article on it around that time.
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It was said this morning that the meddling started in the Syracuse game. Then the Troy debacle happened and Joe Alleva had to have the meeting to tell Orgeron to BTFU.
gotcha
Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:56 pm to Goldrush25
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He has the leverage because Orgeron wants him gone.
Exactly. O is an idiot and an amateur.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:57 pm to sicboy
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Well that's a long standing LSU tradition.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 2:58 pm to Lester Earl
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you think he’s getting fired AND is going to take less money because he is a good guy
Do you think LSU wants to keep him but is going to pay him when he leaves anyway?
Or are you trying to say it’s mutual and both sides will make concessions on what they would be owed in a typical walkout or firing situation?
ETA: Sorry if this was already asked, I didn’t read the whole thread.
This post was edited on 12/28/17 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:00 pm to MOT
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Do you think LSU wants to keep him but are going to pay him when he leaves anyway?
Canada is not fireable with his current contract. They would be forced to keep him if he wasn’t willing to part ways.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:03 pm to Lester Earl
You’re either intentionally leaving out the “mutual” scenario or have a terrible understanding of the way the buyout works.
If LSU wants him to stay and he’s going to walk, what is there to negotiate? He owes LSU damages in that scenario, not the other way around.
If LSU wants him to stay and he’s going to walk, what is there to negotiate? He owes LSU damages in that scenario, not the other way around.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:04 pm to Goldrush25
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that is Orgeron wants him gone, badly.
This.
But Les still wants to pretend this is a normal staff attrition situation.
It’s a relationship that has ended badly. When it suits Les he argues it’s Canada that wants out and he initiated it. The facts say otherwise.
Posted on 12/28/17 at 3:06 pm to Lester Earl
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Getting rid of your OC after year one is not normal assistant coaching attrition.
Lester
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Canada. Wants. Out
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