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re: Rod Gilmore made most sense in all of this BCS.....
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:50 pm to la_birdman
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:50 pm to la_birdman
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Here's my problem with Bama being there:
A. We played them on the road and beat them
B. They didn't win their division of the SEC
C. They didn't win the SEC
D. They don't play an extra game risking injury
E. They sit for over a month and wait for the bowl game
That's not right. That's not how the BCS is supposed to be or was made to be.
I'm not scared about playing Bama or anything similar like you stated a minute ago but this would be bullshite if it happens.
Go to the next in line.
I understand your opinion but this rematch scenario has potential in every other team sport that I can possibly think of. It happens in conference championships in the FBS.
I think the BCS NCG is supposed to match the two teams ranked first and second, and those teams are normally the teams voters feel are best, and combined with computer rankings. I have much less of an issue with a rematch as some of you, as it occurs in every other team sport, every other football subdivision and division.
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Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:51 pm to la_birdman
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Like when we played Bama in early Nov? Defensive definitely. Competitive? Hmmmm 4 missed field goals? Nah.....
That game was the epitome of "competitive."
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:54 pm to Kid Charlemagne
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Oklahoma State will also have a double overtime loss to a 6-5 Iowa State team while Alabama will have an overtime loss to the #1 team in the country.
Ok st lost on the road. Alabama lost at home.
Ok St will not only have won their "division" they will have been Conference Champs.
I can't state that enough..
Say Georgia beats LSU. You still can't put Bama (a team LSU beat at their place) ahead of LSU.
So then what.. you want to have 2 teams from the same conference who did not even win their own conference?
I think a 1 loss conference champ with more wins over 25 teams deserve to go over a team who didn't even win their own DIVISION.. let alone conference.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:57 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Sorry Roger, I just think the voters should really do what's right.
#1 vs #2.
Oh wait..... that already happened.
Agree to disagree.
No disrespect. I like your posts but I can't agree with you on this one.
#1 vs #2.
Oh wait..... that already happened.
Agree to disagree.
No disrespect. I like your posts but I can't agree with you on this one.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 10:59 pm to DBG
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Rod Gilmore made most sense in all of this BCS..... every game doesnt matter in the BCS though they say every game matters, and thats what makes it superior to a playoff but thats 100% false
Before the bama game, all we heard when looking at the top ten was how it would sort itself out. OSU plays OU, UO plays Stanford and bama plays lsu
In fact, I clearly heard several times that the only way there would be a rematch is if lsu lost at bama
They are so full of shite. All espn sees is the ratings that game drew
Posted on 11/27/11 at 11:00 pm to la_birdman
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Sorry Roger, I just think the voters should really do what's right.
#1 vs #2.
Why wouldn't putting the two best teams in the championship be the right thing?
What happens if Ok. St. Loses to OU? Since you think a rematch isn't fair.
This post was edited on 11/27/11 at 11:01 pm
Posted on 11/27/11 at 11:02 pm to ForeLSU
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his point is if Ok State was undefeated most would still consider LSU and Bama the two best teams...but there's no way Bama would jump Ok State to play LSU again. The system isn't simply "who do people think are the 2 best teams".
That part is pissing me off
Posted on 11/27/11 at 11:03 pm to los angeles tiger
I only know one thing for sure when it comes to who should go to the NCG, and that is that LSU should go regardless of whether or not they win over Georgia. Would I like to see a rematch against Alabama? Sure why not? But honestly, I would like to play the best team from another conference more. Why? Because I'm tired of hearing the "SEC is overrated" shite. Okay if we're overrated, give us your best team and let's see what you got.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 11:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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What happens if Ok. St. Loses to OU?
Then it's pretty a shut case but the game hasn't even taken place yet. You mentioned a few minutes ago that it's pointless to talk about things that hasn't happened.
To say Bama is a lock is ridiculous.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 11:10 pm to la_birdman
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Then it's pretty a shut case but the game hasn't even taken place yet. You mentioned a few minutes ago that it's pointless to talk about things that hasn't happened.
I was talking about Ok. St. beating Iowa St, which didn't happen. OU has a pretty fair shot at beating OSU.
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To say Bama is a lock is ridiculous.
They aren't. There are a couple of things that could happen between now and then. I think it's favorable for them, however.
Posted on 11/27/11 at 11:13 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I think it's favorable for them, however.
I don't know about that. I think the voters might surprise some people.
I'm not sure about OU beating OSU.
They don't have Broyles.
They don't have Whaley.
They're playing on the road.
I know that OSU's defense hasn't been the best but I sort of like their chances, to be honest.
This post was edited on 11/27/11 at 11:15 pm
Posted on 11/28/11 at 9:59 am to RogerTheShrubber
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I understand where you are coming from but just disagree on whether a rematch should be factored into a vote,
This thread was a good discussion on the current situation. It is fun to discuss and disagree without name calling.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 10:09 am to Geaux2002
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Bama's best win (Arkansas) struggled to beat the #7 Big 12 team.
So did OSU themselves, along with K-State and Texas. Baylor (another OSU "quality win") lost to that #7 Big 12 team by four touchdowns.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 10:14 am to LMB46
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No pussy here...just not liking Bama getting a double shot at LSU for title. If roles were reversed, I would almost guarantee we would be on outside looking in.
Let's be honest. LSU has been treated very kindly by the BCS system in the past despite having blemishes on their record. What evidence is there to suggest we'd get screwed by the system?
Agreed. I think if we had lost that Alabama game in OT, but won out since, we'd be in an even stronger position for the NC game than they are now.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 10:25 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Who are the best two teams?
USC would probably be favored in a game against Okie State right now. Does that mean that USC (assuming they were eligible) would deserve to go ahead of OSU based on today's resume`?
Posted on 11/28/11 at 10:28 am to Tiger in Gatorland
Gilmore showed his lack of comprehension of college football.
LSU, Miles and the whole team had as one of their goals to win the SEC.
One goal win SEC
different goal, win BCS CG.
both.
Gilmore let his fascination with the BCS get the better of his judgement. Another member of the cast, (I think Herbstreit) later pointed out that players in the SEC value winning the SEC.
LSU, Miles and the whole team had as one of their goals to win the SEC.
One goal win SEC
different goal, win BCS CG.
both.
Gilmore let his fascination with the BCS get the better of his judgement. Another member of the cast, (I think Herbstreit) later pointed out that players in the SEC value winning the SEC.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 10:30 am to TriumphTiger
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Unless there is a clear effort to put Bama number 3
Historically, poll voters have shown in the final week before the bowls that they are willing to vote with an agenda, but in pursuing that agenda, they will only go as far as they can realistically justify. With that in mind, what's the worst a voter could do to Alabama, assuming OSU and VT win next week? I think they could theoretically drop Bama to #5 behind LSU and OSU/VT/Stanford. That would be enough to vault OSU past them.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 10:33 am to los angeles tiger
Actually, OSU will have 5 as well (OU, K-State, Baylor, Texas and Mizzou)
Posted on 11/28/11 at 10:37 am to la_birdman
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They don't have Broyles. They don't have Whaley. They're playing on the road.
They're playing an OSU team that has had an extra week to prepare, and is coming off a loss, so they should be hungry. Plus it's a huge rivalry, so it will be easy to get up for this game.
OSU is basically Texas Tech only better, and we saw how that turned out.
Posted on 11/28/11 at 10:38 am to Mike Linebacker
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Because we beat them head to head
But results on the field don't matter. It's just about who the two best teams are, right? So why isn't Bama getting #1 votes? Some voters do believe they would win if we played them right now, and that Bama is better.
If our win over them (a superior result on the field) trumps a voter's opinion that they are actually better than we are, then why don't OSU's superior results on the field over the course of the season trump a voter's opinion that Alabama may actually be better?
You made an overly simplistic argument, and now you are going overboard (and backward, even contradicting yourself) to defend it. Just admit that it's not SOLELY about who would win between Bama and OSU if they played right now, but is ALSO about what each team has accomplished over the season.
I'm fine with playing Alabama in the NC game, but the overly simple and subjective OPINION that they would beat OSU or are better (by some vague definition that ignores on-the-field accomplishment) is not a sufficient justification for putting them in it.
This post was edited on 11/28/11 at 10:39 am
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