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re: Robert Mann criticizes Les Miles for his silence on budget cuts

Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:20 am to
Posted by PurpGold 14-0
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:20 am to
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looks like we have a Manship grad in here


I'm a Manship grad (graduate program) and the sheep mentality in that school is embarrassing.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:22 am to
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I'm a Manship grad (graduate program) and the sheep mentality in that school is embarrassing.


im glad you made it through without being brainwashed. apparently you're one of the few
Posted by BilJ
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:23 am to
where is this Miles and Jindal being close coming from?
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:30 am to
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where is this Miles and Jindal being close coming from?


Bobby challenged Les to the ALS ice bucket challenge...so obviously they're BFFs and agree on all financial matters
This post was edited on 4/30/15 at 10:33 am
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:30 am to
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Guy can never resist a Jindal jab.

Because we all know Bobby sacrifices so much time and energy on the state, he can't possibly receive any criticism.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:30 am to
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Tenured professors who teach two classes, pull six figure salaries, and do not bring in research dollars are more damaging to LSU's budget situation than a head coach's silence. Particularly when that head coach's team is responsible for the vast majority of the $7 million that is contributed to LSU's academic side.

Many of his collegues wouldn't have a job if it wasn't for Les Miles and his "not much on offense" program.


Again, all he said was that Les Miles and the team may be affected by the school shutting down classes, which is true if that extreme were to happen. Add in Miles known significant support for Jindal and he has a right to state his concerns. Why wouldn't you expect a big figure connected to LSU to stay quiet on this on either side?

Miles saying something would have a significant effect because stupidly people value his opinion more than others in regards to these things.

Again, LSU made them money, not Les. Acting like another coach in Les' place would make LSU significantly less money since 2005 is just plain idiotic.
This post was edited on 4/30/15 at 10:31 am
Posted by GeorgeReymond
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:32 am to
Ourso or die, b
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:36 am to
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Add in Miles known significant support for Jindal and he has a right to state his concerns


his concerns about what? if Miles does support Jindal...what does that matter?

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Why wouldn't you expect a big figure connected to LSU to stay quiet on this on either side?


because he's a fricking football coach. maybe the state Legislature should contact Sean Payton next time they spend money on the Superdome

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Again, LSU made them money, not Les. Acting like another coach in Les' place would make LSU significantly less money since 2005 is just plain idiotic.




and once again...you're completely missing the point.

psst. you're agenda is showing
Posted by ColeCoushCoush
Member since Aug 2014
497 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:38 am to
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In all honesty though, does this peckerwood really think anyone gives a damp about what Miles says on this issue or that it will change anything.



Les Miles speaking up could easily help the issue gain traction with more average citizens. Politicians will do whatever they can get away with, and while I'm sure none of them personally give a shite what Les Miles thinks, if he spoke out and that caused more and more people to voice their opinions or maybe go to this rally downtown that I'm about to head to, that could very well make a difference.

And to anyone who thinks that this is just fear mongering, you need to get your heads out of the sand. The fact is, the legislature laid out for LSU and all state universities a worst case scenario and told them to be prepared for it. The result of that worst case scenario would be exigency. Is it likely to actually happen? I don't think so. But the very fact that term has needed to be discussed has already done great harm to the reputation of this state. You can expect to see more and more faculty at all state universities fleeing for positions at equal or lesser institutions elsewhere simply for job security. And even though exigency isn't likely this go around, the fact that we're this close and that Jindal and the legislature still don't seem to be at all deterred from raiding the higher education budget as their only tool for keeping the state solvent, there's no reason to suspect they won't force our state universities into exigency next year or the year after. It's looking like Vitter is gonna be the front runner to replace Jindal, and while those two absolutely hate each other, it's not like Vitter is any better than Jindal.

The legislature did make some progress by agreeing to limit future increases to TOPS. Jindal of course was very much against that even though he likes to pretend to be a fiscally responsible conservative. He will likely veto that bill, because he's too chicken shite to actually do anything that would be unpopular with his base.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
86475 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:39 am to
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What's your issue with his comments? Just like Drew Brees, Miles is a huge supporter and donor for Jindal to a degree for both it's pathetic. He has been quiet on it, and I am sorry that some LSU fans give more of a crap about football than they do about the academic institution that happens to be linked to their favorite team.

I think they are going to an extreme with the fear push, but Jindal is a POS and Miles loves the dude for whatever damn reason.


Half the fan base thinks miles is a functioning retard. Why on earth would him saying anything do any good? You arse hats say he lies and don't believe a word he says anyway.
This post was edited on 4/30/15 at 10:40 am
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:41 am to
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And to anyone who thinks that this is just fear mongering, you need to get your heads out of the sand. The fact is, the legislature laid out for LSU and all state universities a worst case scenario and told them to be prepared for it. The result of that worst case scenario would be exigency.


the fear mongering and scare tactics came from them screaming "bankruptcy". which is not an option...but most people don't know that.

so yes...it was fear mongering. and it backfired
Posted by Jcorye1
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:44 am to
Good lord.

These people are going to hurt LSU even more with this chicken little bullshite. HE"S A FREAKING COACH, WTF DOES HE KNOW ABOUT THIS???
Posted by ColeCoushCoush
Member since Aug 2014
497 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:44 am to
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Half the fan base thinks miles is a functioning retard. Why on earth would him saying anything do any good? You arse hats say he lies and don't believe a word he says anyway.



Half of the OT/Rant thinks he's a retard. If Les Miles had gone on the radio yesterday and urged the citizens of this state join the march on the capitol that's happening later today, I'm sure most people on this board would ignore him, but I bet a lot of others would listen and it would probably do a lot to increase the turnout.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
13337 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:45 am to
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his concerns about what? if Miles does support Jindal...what does that matter?



Of course your blind love for Les makes you ignore any criticism of him or simply call it bullshite.

So you are saying that something that could be detrimental to his football team should just be completely ignored and he shouldn't be thinking about it at all?

I like Les, and he's done a very good job while at LSU, but he's not a once in a generation coach, nor is he irreplaceable. LSU may not have done as well, but they weren't going to lose 60% of the money they got over the past several years because another coach took over.

Your agenda shows more than anyone's, but of course you are just a "true" LSU fan.
Posted by PurpGold 14-0
Member since Nov 2012
3801 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:45 am to
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Jindal and the legislature still don't seem to be at all deterred from raiding the higher education budget as their only tool for keeping the state solvent

Under the state constitution education and health care are the only areas that can be touched mid-year. Why isn't that being addressed? The legislatures continue to kick the can down the road and avoid a convention to amend the Constitution and no one gives a flip until the annual mid year budget cuts.
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they won't force our state universities into exigency next year or the year after.

Some state universities need to go under.
Grambling: 30.9% Graduation rate
SUNO: 17.5%
UNO: 34.5%
Southern U and A&M: 27.6%
LSU Shreveport: 26.9%
Northwestern: 36%
Why should all of these under-performing schools continue to be bailed out by Louisiana taxpayers? They are part of the problem. Propping up failing universities is not the solution.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:46 am to
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Again, all he said was that Les Miles and the team may be affected by the school shutting down classes, which is true if that extreme were to happen. Add in Miles known significant support for Jindal and he has a right to state his concerns. Why wouldn't you expect a big figure connected to LSU to stay quiet on this on either side?



First off, that isn't all he said.

Second, where is this known significant support coming from?

Third, that isn't Les's job
Posted by PurpGold 14-0
Member since Nov 2012
3801 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:48 am to
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I bet a lot of others would listen and it would probably do a lot to increase the turnout.


You know what else would help increase student turnout? Having the foresight to do a march sooner and not schedule it during dead week. It's not like this issue came out of no where.
Posted by jptiger2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
10010 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:48 am to
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It is the AD's job to speak up, not a coach, any coach.


Yeah, Les is no Joe Paterno!
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:49 am to
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Of course your blind love for Les makes you ignore any criticism of him or simply call it bullshite.



Well if someone makes a claim, they should back it up. Where did you get that he supports Jindal? Where is it public?

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So you are saying that something that could be detrimental to his football team should just be completely ignored and he shouldn't be thinking about it at all?



I think that is part of Joe and the LSU admin's jobs, not Les Miles.

Posted by Choctaw
Pumpin' Sunshine
Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 4/30/15 at 10:49 am to
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Of course your blind love for Les makes you ignore any criticism of him or simply call it bullshite.

So you are saying that something that could be detrimental to his football team should just be completely ignored and he shouldn't be thinking about it at all?


none if this answered my question. thanks

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I like Les, and he's done a very good job while at LSU, but he's not a once in a generation coach, nor is he irreplaceable. LSU may not have done as well, but they weren't going to lose 60% of the money they got over the past several years because another coach took over.



and none of this has anything to do with anything posted in this thread

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but of course you are just a "true" LSU fan.


yes...i am
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