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re: Rewatching 2011 season. Dinosaurian Offense
Posted on 5/13/19 at 12:51 pm to Topwater Trout
Posted on 5/13/19 at 12:51 pm to Topwater Trout
“ terrible development in 2011”
Back up QBs don’t get playing time of any significance whatsoever unless there’s a problem with your starter. It was that way in 2017 as well. What happen in 2011 is no different than what happens for LSU almost every season and what happens across the landscape of college football. imo
Back up QBs don’t get playing time of any significance whatsoever unless there’s a problem with your starter. It was that way in 2017 as well. What happen in 2011 is no different than what happens for LSU almost every season and what happens across the landscape of college football. imo
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Posted on 5/13/19 at 12:52 pm to SUB
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It worked most of the time, but won't get a team to the CFP today and produces at best a 3 loss team
wait are we talking about Miles or Orgeron?
Other than rooting for LSU because you are a fan, you better be rooting for LSU to win 10-11 games this year because otherwise this post is not going to age well.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 12:54 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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Back up QBs don’t get playing time of any significance whatsoever unless there’s a problem with your starter. It was that way in 2017 as well. What happen in 2011 is no different than what happens for LSU almost every season and what happens across the landscape of college football. imo
when you are beating teams by 30 and 40 points your backup, that is going to be the starter the following year, gets more than 11 passing attempts
Posted on 5/13/19 at 12:54 pm to The First Cut
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I fully expect that 2019’s offense will be one of the best in many years.
what does this even mean?
Posted on 5/13/19 at 12:55 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Would you agree the same thing happ in 2008
you mean when Miles kicked the presumptive starting QB off the team like less than a month before the season opener?
Facts are like kryptonite to you.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 12:56 pm to iamandykeim
quote:WHY. Should be the question we are supposed to ask
Rewatching 2011 season.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 1:00 pm to Topwater Trout
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when you are beating teams by 30 and 40 points your backup, that is going to be the starter the following year, gets more than 11 passing attempts
normally, yes.
HOWEVER, Miles couldn't ever pick between Lee and Jefferson. Jefferson's poor decision making (off the field, although it wasn't great on the field) resulted in Lee being thrust into the starting role. People (not directing this at you, just ranting)seem to want to believe that Lee was replaced in the Bama game, which, although he was taken out, this downplays the fact that Jefferson was cleared by the DA and saw action prior to the Bama game.
It seemed pretty clear to anyone with any sense of intuition that Miles was trying to get Jefferson some game time so he could get the guy who was supposed to be the starter in 2011 back on track for getting his starting job back.
To try and blame Miles for not giving the THIRD STRING QB more reps is kinda weird, and very silly.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 1:07 pm to RMcWill1
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Jefferson was cleared by the DA and saw action prior to the Bama game.
Brennan was 2nd string at that time
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To try and blame Miles for not giving the THIRD STRING QB more reps is kinda weird, and very silly.
Game snaps are much more valuable than scrimmage and practice reps for QB's. The development time I am talking about is when our starter/backup was just handing it off anyway...JL/JJ did not need those reps.
Mett would have developed quicker in 2012 with more game snaps in 2011.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 1:12 pm to RMcWill1
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To try and blame Miles for not giving the THIRD STRING QB more reps is kinda weird, and very silly.
He stopped giving reps to the second team QB
One of the things I felt Miles mishandled was sending Lee out to kneel out the clock in his last home game, a game that was in hand at the end with 10 minutes left.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 1:23 pm to Topwater Trout
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when you are beating teams by 30 and 40 points your backup, that is going to be the starter the following year, gets more than 11 passing attempts
People complained, but if we are all honest people are going to complain on this board regardless of what happened.
Would have been nice to see him in the NCG though, at least the second half
Posted on 5/13/19 at 1:24 pm to Topwater Trout
“ gets more than 11 passing attempts “
Not when you have two Sr QBs having like 275 attempts between them.
Mett was actually the third string quarterback in 2011. Complaining that their third string quarterback didn’t get enough playing time is just looking for something to complain bout. Third string quarterback‘s hardly ever even see the field much less get significant reps in game action.
Not when you have two Sr QBs having like 275 attempts between them.
Mett was actually the third string quarterback in 2011. Complaining that their third string quarterback didn’t get enough playing time is just looking for something to complain bout. Third string quarterback‘s hardly ever even see the field much less get significant reps in game action.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 1:26 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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Mett was actually the third string quarterback in 2011.
Well it was obvious Miles didn't trust Lee or Mett to play vs Alabama. Seems maybe getting Mett prepared couldn't have hurt at all
Posted on 5/13/19 at 1:38 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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Mett was actually the third string quarterback in 2011.
not the first 4 games...all 11 passes happened in one game
Posted on 5/13/19 at 1:40 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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People complained, but if we are all honest people are going to complain on this board regardless of what happened.
I am huge on QB development. It doesn't matter who the coach is. I realize it's a different situation with MB this year but he better get some meaningful snaps or I will bitch about the coaches not developing him either. With MB he needs to come in and run the offense in game situations since he is one play away from being the starter
Posted on 5/13/19 at 1:49 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I think you may be thinking of the SECCG.
Miles sent Lee out for victory formation which as silly as this sounds (and trust me, it does), it was almost as if Miles was trolling Lee.
I was half rooting for Lee to fake kneel, turn to the sideline, and throw the ball as hard as humanly possible at Miles' gonads.
Miles sent Lee out for victory formation which as silly as this sounds (and trust me, it does), it was almost as if Miles was trolling Lee.
I was half rooting for Lee to fake kneel, turn to the sideline, and throw the ball as hard as humanly possible at Miles' gonads.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 1:50 pm to Topwater Trout
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Brennan was 2nd string at that time
Brennan??
Posted on 5/13/19 at 1:52 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Mettenberger no doubt would have benefited from more snaps in 2011, but I agree with you that people probably would have complained
OMG WHAT IS MILES DOING ITS BAD ENOUGH HE CANT DECIDE BETWEEN JEFFERSON AND LEE NOW HES PLAYING ALL THE WHAT THE FFFFFFUUUUUUAAAAARRRRGGHHHAJSHSFEHFSOUIHFEUKSD
in my humble opinion, of course.
OMG WHAT IS MILES DOING ITS BAD ENOUGH HE CANT DECIDE BETWEEN JEFFERSON AND LEE NOW HES PLAYING ALL THE WHAT THE FFFFFFUUUUUUAAAAARRRRGGHHHAJSHSFEHFSOUIHFEUKSD
in my humble opinion, of course.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 2:03 pm to Topwater Trout
“ not the first 4 games “
Do you think maybe they were more concerned with getting Lee, who was the second string guy, ready to be the starter than they were worrying how many snaps anyone else got.
It’s amusing that you guys are complaining about how many snaps a third string quarterback got in 2011 but you think fans should get over LSU losing to a SBC team in 2017 or LSU having a less productive O in 2018 than Cam had in 2015.
Is it Aug. yet! lol
Do you think maybe they were more concerned with getting Lee, who was the second string guy, ready to be the starter than they were worrying how many snaps anyone else got.
It’s amusing that you guys are complaining about how many snaps a third string quarterback got in 2011 but you think fans should get over LSU losing to a SBC team in 2017 or LSU having a less productive O in 2018 than Cam had in 2015.
Is it Aug. yet! lol
Posted on 5/13/19 at 2:07 pm to RMcWill1
Nah, Arkansas. Last game at home.
Posted on 5/13/19 at 2:10 pm to RMcWill1
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Brennan??
he meant Mett. he was the 2nd string QB for the 4 games Jordan was suspended. got to throw the ball a bit against a cupcake as mentioned, then went back to 3rd string. don't think he was seen again until the Ole Miss uncalled bootleg (#MettScored), when Les went mercy rule on em early.
side note, the 2011 versions of Tennessee, Florida, Auburn and Ole Miss were about as bad as I've seen of those programs. Ole Miss had quit by the time we played because Nutt was already fired iirc.
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